Like cutting off my own limb

Today’s guest blog is by “Marco”, who tells me he is “just a citizen of the world” and that he is “permanently stuck at that stage of life where he can’t help asking ‘why?’ all the time”. This is far too modest. He is not “just” anything. He has a powerful intellect and an impressive career record. This will not be clear from the first part of this two-part blog, which focuses on his early life, but you may in due course feel that evidence of his thoughtfulness emerges strongly in the second part.

I AM A SURVIVOR

One of the first memories about my own sexuality was in a summer camp. I was 10. Apparently, I was making it so obvious that an older guy yelled, “What are you doing, staring at other boys’ asses!?” Ooops! So, yeah, that was my very first sex education lesson: “You’re not supposed to do that. It’s wrong.” In the camp, there were showers with bamboo screens, which gave less than total privacy because in between the cracks you could get a glimpse of who was inside. One day, word was going around that there were naked women in the showers. Several boys told me about it in great excitement! Since I had a camera, which not many people had at the time, they wanted me to take photos. And I did so despite having no interest in women’s bodies. So at 10 I was already closeted to avoid disappointing my friends’ expectations.

Me (centre) and my friends in the summer camp.

At school, I was the shy nerd. Always trying to avoid conflict. For years, I thought I was the only boy in the world who felt attraction to other boys. At the beginning, having such a secret —”I like boys”… and to be more specific, “I like boys’ asses and dicks”— was arousing. However, years went by, and over the course of my adolescence that fantasy gradually turned into a burden. I repressed myself so much, for so long, that the closet became asphyxiating. I eventually felt the urge to have a real experience. I managed to swallow my shyness and made a few attempts with some acquaintances, but it didn’t work out. Finding peers in a small town is definitely not an easy job for sexual minorities. One day, I observed one of those hand-written notes on a public toilet door: “If you want to suck my dick come here next Tuesday at 6pm.” And that’s exactly what I did. The plan was set: If the guy is hot then enjoy, if the guy is average then just do the job, and if the guy is ugly then run away. The guy turned out to be average for my physical preferences. When he saw me, he made a visible gesture that he was not expecting anyone so young. He hesitated. He asked about my age. I was 17, he was in his 30s. I have never been especially attracted to people much older than me, but I was desperate and he was not ugly enough for me to reject. I suggested doing unsafe sex, but he was kind enough to tell me to play it safe. So, yeah, my first sexual contact was in a blind date with a grown-up.

That experience, though, was not the ultimate relief, since I had been carrying a heavy emotional backpack of repression. The realisation that I spent so many years losing opportunities for real sex while I was isolated in my fantasies was horrible. It is the kind of thought where you realise you have spoiled your time for many years, leading a life that does not represent at all what you wanted to be. This realisation was so disturbing that I entered a depression phase in which I made several suicide attempts. The first time I put my fingers to the wall socket; nothing happened except having a fright. The second time I randomly swallowed pills from the medicine cabinet, which ended with my mum dragging me to the hospital while struggling to keep me conscious. So, yeah, I am a survivor. I mean, literally. It was actually at the hospital bed when I came out to my parents. I later got psychiatric help for depression. The only options I was seeing were either to keep hiding myself like a rat and lose opportunities for real sex, or to come out as a faggot and see how everyone rejects me. What a dilemma! You have to understand that, at the time, homosexuality was a taboo and we still were considered deviants. The American Psychiatric Association considered it a mental disorder. Happily, my therapist helped me reconcile with myself and look forward to a new future. After that, at the age of 19, I felt free to open the Pandora’s box of my sexuality. I suddenly quit my summer job and my parents’ place to move to the big city! This is where I had my first kiss. Yay! I also became a sex worker for over a year, which in my case was an act of rebellion against society (and, of course, also a means to pay for my bills after such an abrupt emancipation). The city can be a liberating experience, but it also has its dark side. One night, I was beaten up by a group of young men after they saw me holding hands with a guy, leaving my face badly bruised.

As a young adult, I got actively involved in the gay movement, being among the first to come out in my region, enrolling as an ILGA member, getting involved in politics, engaging with local associations, and so on. It was in one of these groups that I started a row that ended up with its dissolution, because I wanted it to condemn paedophilia after pressures from the local council to do so. I behaved like a demon, a fanatic, led by hysteria and fear. I know, I know… What a hypocrite I was! But there’s more. This story has only just started.

I’ve always had, and still have, many fulfilling sexual relationships with adults. One day, someone texted me on Grindr. Blank profile. He disappeared and reappeared with a new profile over the course of several weeks, maybe months. We eventually had a proper online conversation. I let him take the initiative without pressure. He was looking for a sex encounter and he had a very clear idea about what he wanted to do in bed. It was a very specific fantasy. To be honest, he was so lovely and sexy in his Instagram that I had a crush. He told me he was 13, about to turn 14. OMG. What should I do? Oh no! The Ghost of the Dilemmas reappeared again. I could either repress myself and lose the opportunity to enjoy a very desired experience, or take the risk of going to jail and being labelled as a “paedo” for the rest of my life. I then decided to take legal advice. Rest assured, I will never forget that consultation. After entering her office, I set the scene, saying that teenagers use dating apps looking for sexual encounters, and I happened to have an interest in someone, and the interest was mutual. She asked about “her” age —she assumed I was talking about a girl— and I answered. After some hesitation, she said, I quote, “…up to 16 years old… Hmmm… No.” Which obviously begged the question, “What about 16 to 18 years old, then?” She replied, “Hmmm… Still no.” WTF!!?? Sounded like a bad joke. She then asked my age. When I told her she reacted like, “Oh my goodness!”. There are times when facial expression tells you way more than words. She slowly shook her head in disapproval. She stared at me in reproof as if I were a criminal. A disgusting monster. A predator. I was sex shamed. Her attitude was so obvious that I reacted, “Look, I have no interest at all in your moral beliefs, I just came here looking for legal advice.” There was a lot of tension in the room. She replied, “OK, OK” and I left angrily.

I eventually decided not to meet the boy, which has been one of the toughest decisions I have ever faced. It felt like cutting off my own limb. Emotionally excruciating. I mentally collapsed. It left me with a series of anxiety crises for over a year, for which I required treatment. Yes, again. Fortunately, my anxiety is completely over these days. But, why did I decide not to meet the youngster? To be continued…

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Your regular heretic resumes below the photo…

Bath encounter… Hank and his former pupil renew their acquaintance in unconventional style.

HOW HOT IS ‘BLUE FILM’?

Debuted at Edinburgh International Film Festival, Blue Film has been touted as the most controversial movie of the year, but you wouldn’t mistake it for any of Bonnie Blue’s work.

Reviewers tell us it is mainly just talk rather than sex. But, as one of the main characters has been to prison for involvement with a 12-year-old boy, and the portrayal could be seen as sympathetic, we can see why it might be a hot potato.

So, is it any good? I didn’t go to Edinburgh to see it, but we can glean a lot from the reviews. Damon Wise sets the scene well at a movie site called Deadline:

The opening sequence is a lot; [Kieron] Moore plays Aaron Eagle, who is what they apparently call a “camboy”, basically an online male escort who taunts his submissive gay audience with his jacked, tattooed body and sexually loaded insults. All he’s wearing is a pair of white briefs, but the hidden booty of what’s inside gets the cash registers ringing. Aaron is pretty good as this, and the money is flowing in. But even by his own flush standards he’s about to strike gold: an anonymous fan has offered to pay him $50,000 for an overnight stay, and, much to the fan’s surprise, he’s taking him up on the offer.

We see this when the man, wearing a balaclava, opens the door to his single-use Airbnb and finds Aaron on the doorstep with his overnight bag. Aaron is good to go, but the man has other plans, insisting that his guest sit down first for an extensive  video interview. It becomes pretty clear that this mysterious stranger knows a lot more about Aaron than he has bargained for, chipping away at his cultivated but clearly fake identity in ways that leave him vulnerable — and angry. From this point on, it’s impossible to discuss the film without revealing what could be construed as a major plot point, though instead of a spoiler alert, it may be fairer to call it a trigger warning.

Well, we’re not going to be “triggered” here, I trust! The big reveal comes when the stranger takes off his balaclava (a disguise described in other reviews as a ski mask, but no matter). That’s when Aaron discovers this is no stranger at all. It’s Hank Grant (Reed Birney), one of his old middle school teachers. This is in the US, where middle-school pupils are typically 11 to 14. Hank was fired for the “attempted sexual assault”, whatever that might mean, of a 12-year-old student.

I’m guessing there was nothing rapacious. Probably more like a rejected pass, judging by where writer-director Elliot Tuttle tells us he is coming from. Tuttle wrote the script while thinking about a fantasy from his own time at middle school: “I really wanted my history teacher to have sex with me,” he says. Cool!

Hank admits he was attracted to the schoolboy version of Aaron. As for why he has brought his old student back into his life, more than a decade later, he says, “I want to know if I still love you.” Eventually, they are seen being physically intimate together.

As a review in Vanity Fair puts it, the topic is especially radioactive “amid the swirling Epstein files saga”, adding, “Its insistence on pushing boundaries is completely at odds with an industry terrified of controversy and scrambling to simply stay afloat.”

Tuttle agrees but also pushes back: “Trump is ushering in this cultural conservatism that I think forces the queer community and gay tastemakers to really present one view of queerness that is kind of immune to critique…and, to me, pretty boring and not in the tradition of being a queer artist…. People are hungry for something that is not so limited by what’s tasteful.”

So far, so good. It sounds as though this director, in his first feature-length film, has made a brave effort to challenge the timidity of both the movie industry and the “respectable” so-called gay community, which often seems even less communally minded and tolerant of difference these days than society at large.

Sadly, though, we are given grounds to suspect that timidity has triumphed in the end. At some point the respectability police have managed to scuttle Tuttle. My guess is that Hank’s firing for “attempted assault” was a late change in the script, because neither the industry nor the two main actors want to risk being associated with a different Hank – a Hank whose relationship with the 12-year-old was one of mutual love rather than assault, “attempted” or otherwise.

The actors, producers and all involved would have surmised that such a scenario would have seen the film tarred as a bid to “legitimise paedophilia”, to a degree that could not plausibly be denied. So, they had to make Hank pretty much a “virtuous” paedophile who strayed only marginally from the straight and narrow, backing off after a rejected pass.

Nevertheless, Blue Film may be worth seeing. Like most indie films, especially controversial ones, it is unlikely ever to reach many (or even any) cinema screens, but we must hope at some point it becomes available for online viewing.

 

EPSTEIN: AM I MISSING SOMETHING?

Headline in The Times: “Paedophile’s assistant ‘sat on Queen’s throne’ during private tour”.

LOL! Bonkers, isn’t it? It conjures up an alternative reality in which “assistant paedophile” is a routine job you’ll see advertised at your local Jobcentre. Wouldn’t that be interesting?

Of course, it has to be a Jeffrey Epstein story, the “assistant” being a 22-year-old woman who lavished praise on the guy in a birthday book made for him before his fall from grace, saying how he had given her a great time, bringing opportunities she would never otherwise have had, meeting famous people such as Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump – to say nothing of getting to sit  in the monarch’s seat  at Buckingham Palace.

What struck me about this story, apart from the bizarre headline’s display of the paedophobic, paedomanic lunacy into which the anglophone world has sunk, is that the media must surely be finding it harder and harder to keep insisting Epstein is a monster. Why?  Because we are hearing from more and more people who have said behind the scenes what a nice guy he was!

The testimony of this understandably starstruck young woman from an ordinary background is particularly interesting and important because it tells an entirely different story to those of his alleged victims, at least one of whom, Virginia Giuffre, was a proven fantasist at best, while others have stood to gain financially from their narratives of alleged trauma – millions have been paid in compensation to say nothing of media fees for their stories.

What we are also hearing now, though, is similar praise for Epstein from his elite friends, notably Peter Mandelson, recently sacked as the UK’s ambassador to the US, and Sarah Ferguson, Prince Andrew’s former wife. Both of them speak of him with extraordinary warmth, giving us good reason to believe they were speaking from the heart. Unlike the “assistant”, their testimony is also important because they were high status people with no reason to be sycophantic towards him. Yes, they might have been helped by loans from him, but they did not need to grovel or be so effusive.

So far, I have to say, I have seen nothing to suggest that Epstein was anything other than a nice guy. As a socialist, I have no fondness for billionaires, especially those (most of them) who are greedy, mean and go out of their way to dodge taxes. But why is Epstein singled out as a monster? I mean, that young lady we started with, he literally treated her like a queen! I have no idea where this “monster” thing is coming from. Am I missing something?

Jeffrey Epstein: Not just rich but also handsome, charming, intelligent, cultured, witty, and fun to be with, despite the shady image.

 

 

 

 

 

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Logically, how can close-in-age minors have the mental and legal ability to consent or dissent to share sex pleasure, but can only dissent not consent to share sex pleasure with adults whom they lust for in ‘Family’ media?

E.G. In plain sight for decades, unstoppable grooming gangs of often underage girls pestered molested and fucked adult Rock-Pop stars. Many fans now grinning grannies fondly recall their illegal fun sex with adult stars. Including creative young girls plaster-casting adult Pop-Rock cocks for posterity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEUPOug4rYc

F.B. Meme:

Sally, “Mommy, today, Johnny showed me his willy.”

Mom, “OK, but he didn’t force you to look did he?”

Sally, “No, I asked to see it, and it was like a peanut.”

Mom, “It was small and round?”

Sally, “Yeah, and it tasted salty!”

There have been a few developments with this useless and expensive exercise in “accountability” (deflection), the “grooming gang inquiry” hitting a snag with no head yet appointed, and Jim Gamble pulling out along with a load of survivor witnesses, who were meant to be the lifeblood of the whole thing.

Readers here may remember that initially no one in the establishment could agree on having an inquiry, due to previous attempts failing and being labelled a whitewash.

Now this one is heading the same way, conservative newspapers have embarked on a rash of signalling, insisting the inquiry “must not fail”, knowing full well there is no possible way it could succeed, given its design, the stakeholders and the political pressures.

Quotes for “expanding” the entire thing, and even launching new criminal investigations are in the multiples of millions, over multiple years, apparently, and professionals who get paid for reporting on all of this have recommended unsurprisingly that more money is spent paying for more such accountability exercises.

Here is an assortment…

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jim-gamble-is-the-right-man-to-lead-the-grooming-gang-inquiry/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c629zvnd5lno

https://www.theweek.com/crime/the-grooming-gangs-scandal-explained

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/21/why-is-there-a-national-inquiry-into-grooming-gangs

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/grooming-inquiry-adviser-stop-blaming-050000017.html

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/recognition-long-overdue-met-police-32717912

https://www.aol.com/articles/survivor-hunted-rapists-labelled-vigilante-122224101.html

July 2025.
The “donation” queue has been replenished with a new member.
Michael Jackson pal and member of his ‘second family’ accused of shaking estate down for $213M

Frank Cascio previously declared that Jackson had been the victim of false allegations: “He was being attacked by liars… There was nothing ambiguous about the whole thing. These people were after Michael’s money.

But later something changed

Cascio and his representatives approached the estate seeking a deal to sell personal materials and consult on projects. The estate claims that discussions soon turned into threats, with demands for large sums in exchange for not going public with the allegations. In January 2020, the estate allegedly agreed to a confidential settlement to protect Jackson’s family from further pain. The agreement included payments over five years, strict non-disparagement terms, and a clause requiring all disputes to be handled in private arbitration.

However, this was not enough.

in July 2024, Cascio’s attorney allegedly demanded an additional $213 million, threatening to “expand the circle of knowledge” to harm the estate’s business dealings.

October 2025.
All family members join in the business.
The FIVE children from one family who claim Michael Jackson brainwashed and abused them for 25 years…

A source familiar with the case confirmed that all five of the Cascio siblings, including Frank, claimed they were abused by Jackson.

Seems to me this is pretty much the scenic size of of it all, seen through victimariy-tinted spectacles AS WORN BY fearful Brittle, reportorial unit Julie Bindel!

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Johnson, David K. Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019).

In 1951, a new type of publication appeared on newsstands—the physique magazine produced by and for gay men. For many men growing up in the 1950s and 1960s, these magazines and their images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, served as an initiation into gay culture. […]

In this book, David K. Johnson shows how gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement. […] With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political “homophile” magazines, physique magazines were the largest gay media outlets of their time.

Ewing, C. (2025). The trials of John Stamford: gay travel, sexual harm, and Spartacus International Gay Guide. Rethinking History, 29(3), 509–536.

This article argues that, in order to understand the expanding gay travel worlds of the 1970s and 1980s, it is necessary to follow both gay liberation politics and harmful practices. Just as expanding political opportunities for gay men opened up new possibilities for scene building, the networks of travel and communication that both resulted from and enabled this expansion also became useful tools for some men to skirt newly consolidated age of consent laws. A close examination Spartacus International Gay Guide, a guide for same-sex desiring men founded in the UK in 1970, and its head editor John Stamford, reveals the complicated ways in which this language could be used to navigate shifting legal regimes.

[The abstract uses morally loaded language, but going by the footnotes, this guy is very well read on ‘heretical’ sources and is more reasonable than the Abstract would suggest…]

Loos, T. (2018). Respectability’s edge: Transnational sex radical René Guyon. Sexualities, 23(1-2), 146-169.

The writings and life of French sex radical, René Guyon (1876–1963), offer a fascinating opportunity to examine together western European sexological thought, human rights movements, and imperial privilege in Asia. As one of France’s early promoters of sexual rights as a human right, Guyon revealed himself to be a radical advocate for sexual liberation from what he called the ‘hideous bondage of conventional “sexual morality”’ in Europe and America. From his residence in Siam, Guyon penned his magnum opus, Etudes d’éthiques sexueles, a series of nine volumes that he wrote between 1929 and 1944 in which he promoted all consensual sexual acts, regardless of one’s sex, age or race, within ‘ethical limitations.’

See also, Erwin Haeberle, Human rights and sexual rights: The legacy of Rene Guyon (1983).

It may be interesting for people to know that some scholars have started using the term “child-led marriage,” to discuss marriage practices in non-western countries. I’ve written about the shining star that is Hoko Horii, who has in some ways been pioneering the effort to get children’s agency within marriage taken seriously, and it appears other scholars have followed suit.

Take, for example, Ruengrin Pratippornkul’s 2024 article “Child-led Marriage in Thailand’s Deep South,” which argues that “children are not powerless in decision-making” and that “since 2006 most of the women who married under 15, married men whose age difference was between 0–4 years.” Likewise, their doctoral dissertation challenges “the stereotypical labelling of child marriage as a universally “harmful” and “backward” practice as defined by the international human rights agenda,” arguing for “close-in-age exemptions […] to avoid over-criminalising consensual sexual activity among adolescents.”

Another example would be “The Limits of Child Agency? Dissonances and Contradictions in Conceptualisations of Agency within Child-Led Marriages in Somalia and Cameroon” (2022), which “highlights contradictions within non-government organisations (ngo) and United Nations (UN) narratives on child marriage: children are said to exercise agency when they defy forced marriage, yet they lack knowledge and choice if they themselves decide to marry.”

I won’t pretend it’s all positive, but it is interesting…

Well, I did say “I won’t pretend it’s all positive,” so it may not be that couples live “happily ever after.”

One of these scholars, I think the Thailand paper I linked first, says they’re usually “short” relationships. Broadly speaking, though, I am not sure. I’d have to read more closely for young people’s varied accounts, their “customer satisfaction” ratings!

Depending on the circumstance, there may be lots of external pressures putting strain on these people’s otherwise consensual relationships. Money problems, social media breaking one’s brain, incompatibility in values, etc.

Just like any relationship, people can part ways for a whole host of reasons, whether it be incompatible values, mental health issues, money problems, or infidelity, etc. I know we all like to see happy stories of people saying they knew what they were doing, had a great time, and 10/10 would do it again. But, saying you look back on an experience as overall or mostly positive, doesn’t mean there were no ups and downs.

I’ll just warn people against holding other people’s relationships to an unfairly high standard, when even amongst totally legal, in theory uncontroversial peer-age relationships, “satisfaction rates” are not necessarily high and they don’t all last long. So many everyday marriages are under great stress and end, so many relationships of all kinds end…

Intrinsic harm by committed relationship and a free, or nearly so, lunch otherwise certainly don’t match my understanding of biology and mating strategies. Sources, please!

Intrinsic harm by committed relationships (e.g. child marriage) is certainly consistent with your previous claims, predicated on harmless sex outside of them and their supposed ills, leading to the comparison between mating strategies and their utility, accounting for sexual asymmetry, and e.g. female intrasexual competition and intersexual selection.

Your reply mentions pederastry, which doesn’t directly transition to reproduction (as pedophilia can, by concealed ovulation), yet e.g. Rind and Bailey considers in light of evolution. So I’d certainly dispute an evolutionary excemption for pedophilia.

As you defend homosexuality – including pederastry – at some length in the comments, why not man-girl love? A different form of life-long relationship doesn’t strike me as a sufficient reason.

<blockquote>However, the applicability of mating strategies is limited to mating.</blockquote>

And you presume pedophiles can’t mate with young girls (what ancient test detects ovulation in e.g. 9-year-old girls?)! Do you also insisted they don’t apply to women, aged between 13 or so and 40, on hormonal contraceptives?

The attempt at moralism regarding reproduction gives the value of your previous assertions of defending science defense, and an alleged fact/value distiction, showing how “fine” man-girl love could be.

Since Sinatra, Presley, Beatles, Stones, Amboy Dukes, et al, millions of Worldwide AAMs positively in plain sight – all unseen by Anglo negative fake media.
And now all unheard by Anglo negative fake media, many fans now grinning-grannies fondly recall their illegal fun sex with adults. So, after all the Anglo negative fake media decades – positive MAP/AAM Global case closed!?

Cum on antis answer the question, answer the Goddam question?! Ha! Ya can’t can ya – CUNTS!!!

Relationships with underage girls.
Ted Nugent’s 1981 song “Jailbait” describes having sex with a 13-year-old girl.[69][70] In a Behind the Music episode, he admitted to having sexual relations with underage girls on multiple occasions.[71][72]

In 2004, the musician Courtney Love said she performed oral sex on Nugent during a phone-in call to The Howard Stern Show. In 2013, Love claimed she had been 14 at the time, and that there was a line of young girls waiting to engage in sexual acts.[73][74]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent

The pedophillia moral panic makes children more susceptible to abuse – An imperfect but entertaining rant on Reddit from a Youth Rights sub.

Detailed page on https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Richard_Neville

He was the lead editor of Oz magazine, a friend to Germaine Greer, and host of the 1975 radio broadcast on Pederasty that recently had the Daily Mail up in arms…

A lot went into this page. And yes, if you get to the quote: that really is it! It’s a tiny, minuscule throwaway paragraph; it’s not celebratory, gratuitous or mean. It doesn’t even tell us how the girl felt about the experiences as such. This tiny passage, is why this blogger now sees Neville as “nauseatingly reprehensible,” using the language of “abuse” and even calling him a “child abuser.”

This is, to be frank, pathetic. Utterly ridiculous. The way Neville writes is irreverent, suggesting he saw this experience as largely insignificant, not a big deal. I strongly suspect that’s how everyone involved perceived the experience at the time, when they weren’t being pummeled, bullied and shamed into re-conceptualizing their past as “nauseatingly reprehensible.”

Meanwhile, back in backward unMerry Angloland: October 16, 2025. Two children, Ages 9 and 10, charged With Assault, Kidnapping, and Rape After 5-Year-Old Allegedly Found ‘Unrecognizable’.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/2-children-ages-9-10-144820391.html

A very sad and developing story I’ll take the liberty of posting here because it is highly relevant…

A Virped member has just stormed the stage at a national convention with a gun. Ohio’s Connor Weston is awaiting charges and this is a developing story.

It appeared to be a stunt, intended to draw attention to his ACNOMAP slogans and flag, and no one was hurt, thankfully.

Sadly, I don’t think this is going to help the cause of anti-contact MAPs, especially with the controversy surrounding Virped’s directors fresh in the memory.

A Wikipedia conference in Manhattan descended into chaos Friday morning when an unhinged Ohio man jumped on stage and pointed a gun at his own head.

Connor Weston, 27, allegedly clutched the loaded revolver as he declared, “I’m a non-contact pedophile. I want to kill myself” — prompting WikiConference staff to quickly tackle and disarm him before cops took him into custody, sources said.

“It was just adrenaline,” said one of the staffers who stopped the gunman. “Since you’re on the trust and safety team you’re expected to do this .. we’re not used to loaded weapons in the same room….we’re used to more prank behavior.”

Link, and ongoing discussion below, the story will also be big on X no doubt.

https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/

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More questions for Tom?

1: About Anglo SexNet modern scholars backward Victorian? Agonizing over post-WW2 1970s thru 1990s non-Anglo forward free modern Europe 25 years open sale of MAP/AAM mags & vids proudly tagged ‘JUV’ in stores. Until Anglo Victorian backward body-guilt antis campaigned, groomed, brainwashed, and bullied the free World to have all MAP/AAM images, texts, and thoughts totalitarian criminalized, ongoing.

2: About Anglo SexNet modern scholars, still backward Victorian? Agonizing over 1990s scientific solid proof of pre-birth horny human infants masturbating, a large majority are female fetuses far HOTTER than the male.

3: About Anglo SexNet modern scholars still backward Victorian? Agonizing over scientific modern solid proof of Century 21 Worldwide unstoppable horny minors Gen Selfie-Sext proactively creating and sharing sexual images of hot adults and themselves, all mocking backward Anglo Victorian body-guilt fake laws.

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Cyril could help by writing an article (which would no doubt be sourced) summarizing the treatment of MAPs in Russia in English, with examples, and surely one of us would help proof the thing. But ultimately from prior experience I just think he wants to share links with us, not utilize any platform.

At the moment I can use the Internet only in a library which has put some filtres on its PCs. I don’t have an email address (it creates some problems in getting registered for libraries) and cannot register on Telegram where all the news about amateur sting operations are posted. In better times I has been banned from Twitter (for anti-Semitism) and Instagram (the same situation as Dissident’s) too. Sorry.

A fascinatingly good-but-bad policy research piece on the CP subject, proving once and for all that CP is a totem-of-bullshit subject that should never be approached by persons learned in that area of study, particularly with the present-day challenges of imaginary child material.

The EVIL of CP.

Read and weep!

https://web.archive.org/web/20251013153644/https://thedispatch.com/article/ai-child-porn-abuse-speech/

Children can be systematic problem-solvers at younger ages than psychologists had thought – new research (The Conversation, Oct 3rd, 2025). Excerpted:

More than half the children we tested demonstrated evidence of structured algorithmic thinking, and at ages as young as 4 years old. While older kids were more likely to use algorithmic strategies, our finding contrasts with Piaget’s belief that children were incapable of this kind of systematic strategizing before 7 years of age.

Our results suggest that children are actually capable of spontaneous logical strategy discovery much earlier when circumstances require it.

Explaining our results requires a more nuanced interpretation of Piaget’s original data. While children may still favor apparently less logical solutions to problems during the first two Piagetian stages, it’s not because they are incapable of doing otherwise if the situation requires it.

Children are not complete dumbasses, basically. They are capable, but if never given the opportunity to show it, you’ll never see it.

Did anyone see this Twitter post about Trans kids in mid September? It got over 30 million views.

The girl’s parents are clearly heavily religious, and long time poster Lox over at the Yesmap Fediverse [thanks for your persistence, everyone], considers parent’s “forcing” religion on their kids to be child abuse.

What do people think?

The Voting Age Should Be ZERO (Jul 28, 2025, Youtube).
For your Sexnetter who mocked this idea; perhaps he can chew on this and evaluate the arguments. With over 200k views on a small channel, there’s clearly a lot of interest.

I’m not even sure I’m down with the idea, so I’ll have to listen sometime and see if I’m convinced!

They compare the arguments against children’s vote to those used in the past against women’s vote. We could extrapolate and compare the current conceptions of child sexuality to the past ones about woman sexuality: they believed that women had no autonomous sexuality, that it existed only in relation with a man, the legitimate husband or the vile seducer.

One of those cop cosplay groups showed up to bully and harass an alleged MAP at a pub in Scotland.

An amazing and brave friend of the MAP, an unidentified woman, dragged the vigilante bitch down the stairs and kicked her, rendering her unconscious.

The lesson learned: MAPs are not always easy targets.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/paedophile-hunter-allegedly-kicked-unconscious-during-sting-at-pub-5359807

#makebulliesafraidagain

Seriously though, wtf is wrong with these people? I despise neo nazis but I would never go to a pub where Richard Spencer was hanging out to harass him.

I’m just not a violent person, and I don’t see why these dangerous “hunter” types whose actions often lead to physical confrontations should be tolerated. They are bullies, often picking on vulnerable people who are old, autistic, or don’t speak English well. When people get tired of their deranged, violent behavior and finally clap back in self defence, the “hunters” get no sympathy from me…

Wow this is excellent news! Can we send some money to that brave woman who stomped on the face of that terrible hysterical bitch? Even better, can we create a group of anti-vigilantes, or at least create a website with a list of the names and addresses of vigilantes and violent agitators? A list I think would be a good start that would be legally sound.

Oh I’m certainly not sure if the violence was “legally sound” although I most definitely am overjoyed by it in this circumstance. I am not a pacifist.

However, I believe a simple list of these cretins with their address+phone information would certainly be allowed, and at least let them know they are being tracked.

You know what, “Honesty,” I could see anti-vigilante “name and shame” type website becoming a thing. How about “Vigilante Spotlight” for a website name, or “Vigilante Abuse Database.”

A website header / tag line could be something like “Shining a spotlight on vigilante terrorism.”

Jim and the Yesmap cohort have proven their ability to create enduring and lawful websites / platforms, but the most important thing is having dedicated individuals for whom it becomes a habit to post on the site.

I’ve already done tons for the Newgon encyclopedia, that’s my contribution, but it doesn’t mean other’s have to do the same thing, can’t join in and find their own ways to contribute…

I gather, for example, that the recently deceased Nambla stalwart Peter Melzer who received an obituary on this blog site, was the major force behind the Nambla website being maintained. He kept it up and running in spite of hostility towards the organization, and in doing so kept a key space for counter discourse alive…

So, an anti vigilante website is certainly a possibility, Honest. Not a bad idea at all.

Aussie Antis, frustrated by a lack of accountability, have angrily republished a 1975 ABC radio doc that sympathetically interviewed pederasts, and it’s fascinating.

https://rumble.com/v709ncc-1975-abc-radio-national-broadcast-titled-pederasty.html

It really is fascinating.

No-one takes any notice of either a pervert or a child”

We rest our case!

Page made based on Wikipedia: https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Pederasty_(radio_program)

Particularly good quotes to be added shortly, I’m sure. Either by me or someone else. But damn, as I’m listening, I’m amazed by the frankness. Positive testimony coming from the mouth of the former “child,” and an account you can listen to rather than just read.

It’s relatively rare since TikToks and other social media posts tend to get removed, and don’t persist as long as books and scholarship. This radio broadcast reminds me of when NAMBLA founder Tom Reeves and one of his former (now adult) partners “spoke out” at a 1994 conference. These pieces of media are real gems. Incredible glimpses into recent history…

Apparently the show’s host, Richard Neville, wrote a book Play Power (Jonathon Cape, London 1970) in which he openly talks of having sex with a 14-year-old female student when he was in his 20s. The Daily Mail and former fans are upset at realizing this, with one blogger stating that “I’m not sure I fully comprehended the enormity of it at the time.” [See comments].

Relatedly, he was editor of Oz, the counter cultural magazine that went to trial for obscenity.

>Relatedly, he was editor of Oz, the counter cultural magazine that went to trial for obscenity.

Naughty Anglo Neville’s special edition, “Schoolkids Oz” guest-edited by 5th & 6th-form children (SHOCK) was No. 28 of Oz magazine published in May 1970 and soon the subject of a high-profile OBSCENITY case in the United Kingdom from June 1971 to 5 August 1971,[1] the LONGEST trial under the 1959 Obscene Publications Act (another Victorian fake law). GOSH – what did prim Anglo Enid Blyton’s proactive preteens Famous Five & Secret Seven say while furiously WANKING over adult Spick & Span mags behind the bike sheds?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schoolkids_Oz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enid_Blyton

https://vintagefetish.website/spick-span-extra

If you ever wonder why people are wary of throwing their hat in the ring to try and temper the performative outrage, see the vagueness of anti-porn law in countries like the UK. In a terrifying case of an idiot hate preacher who, like many Antis naively believes they are safe from the hysteria they propagate, got sentenced to 3 years’ jail and lifetime sex offence registration over images he thought were funny and had no idea were illegal.

A hate speaker who was jailed over a series of public protests against sex offenders has been locked up after distributing a video of a child having intercourse with an animal over WhatsApp.

William Charlton, known as Billy, was given a prison sentence in 2019 over speeches he gave at a series of planned demonstrations in Sunderland.

Charlton was jailed for 21 months in September 2019 and was told by the judge he was “an intelligent, articulate, skilled public speaker but also a manipulator and bully” who had caused a “toxic atmosphere” in the city.

By that time, police had already seized his phone after a video had been found, that he had sent to another man who had been arrested for an unrelated matter, which featured a child engaged in a sex act with an animal.

Charlton was convicted by a jury at Newcastle Crown Court last summer of sending the video clip to over 40 of his contacts over WhatsApp.

The 57-year-old had insisted he did not view the 18 second video, which featured a boy aged between 10-14 with the animal, before he forwarded it on and had no reason to suspect its contents were illegal.

Prosecutor Ian West told the court today: “There is no suggestion he is a paedophile or gained any sexual gratification from watching or distributing theimage, nor did he intend any of the recipients to receive sexual gratification from it.

“He just has, it seems, a sick sense of humour.”

Charlton, of Sidmouth Road, Gateshead, was convicted of distributing a Category A image of a child.

He had also admitted possessing extreme pornography in relation to an image involving an adult female engaging in sexual activity with an animal.

And he had also pleaded guilty to another offence of extreme pornography, again involving an adult.

Judge Sarah Mallett today jailed Charlton for a total of three years and said he must sign the sex offenders register for life.

You reap what you sow, I guess?? But no, I do feel sorry for this dangerous hate preacher idiot: “extreme porn” laws are literally criminalizing “edgy”, non-normative and kinky sex through the backdoor. His sentence seems disproportionately harsh. I wish the law would just focus on reforming actual rapists who drugged people, or violent people who force someone to have sex. Not all this statutory stuff or people jerking off at home minding their own business, causing harm to nobody. We should, in a Just world, be trying to keep people out of prison, not finding more excuses to put them there!

Love that:

You reap what you sow.

We should, in a Just world, be trying to keep people out of prison, not finding more excuses to put them there!

His deffense is more revealing than his actions. When they say “There is no suggestion he is a paedophile“, there is the embedded message that philias, rather than actions, can be condemned. They don’t care much about what happens with the child that appears in the video. In their view, what is to be most condemned is the adult’s gratification.

Do people have any thoughts on the trial of American rapper and producer Sean Combs, better known as “P Diddy”?

As you may have seen, he was found guilty on some counts in a highly publicized trial, but acquitted of other serious counts. As wiki puts it:

United States of America v. Sean Combs was a 2025 criminal trial in the federal district court in Lower Manhattan, New York City. American rapper and record producer Sean “Diddy” Combs was accused of a series of sex-related felonies, to which he pleaded not guilty. On July 2, 2025, after three days of deliberation, the jury found Combs not guilty of racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking charges, but guilty on two counts of transportation for the purposes of prostitution, in violation of the Mann Act.

This mann guy seems like a real prick.

Regarding the Epstein part of this blog post:

Holy shit are content creators milking the story for all it’s worth. Scarcely a day goes by without a new documentary, news production, or new “revelation” being made about Epstein. Usually, there’s not much regarding evidence of anything criminal, just emails or documents relating to his friends and associates in life.

There’s the now infamous “birthday book,” which journalist Michael Tracey has aptly argued that “If one scans through this dopey book with any measure of objectivity — impossible as that might be for anything Epstein-related — it should immediately become obvious that the overriding (intended) tone is one of humor and spoof.” He adds:

The histrionic puritanism with which this stuff gets interpreted is more than a little ironic. In a culture that churns out such a steady deluge of what could be generously described as “raunchy” entertainment — TV, movies, video games, social media, etc. — to suddenly act like everyone’s obliged to get their collective panties in a bunch over “dirty,” sexually suggestive jokes is pretty rich. […]

[T]he implicit premise in much of the commentary surrounding the “Birthday Book” publication was […] supposed to indicate that Epstein’s friends and associates were fully aware he was running a giant pedophile ring […] makes zero sense.

Epstein wasn’t even investigated for any illicit sexual activity until 2005, and the earliest any of these people could’ve heard about his legal embroilments would’ve almost certainly been 2006 — if they even knew about it then. So what could notable Birthday Card Givers such as Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Ace Greenberg, Mort Zuckerman, etc. have realistically known in 2003, when they sent off their cheerful well-wishes to Ghislaine Maxwell?

Recently, I saw an email that made the news, with hedge-fund giant Glenn Dubin and his wife, Eva, saying to Jeffrey Epstein’s probation officer they were “100% comfortable” with him being around their kids. At this point, it seems safe to say that many, many people out there, thought that Jeffrey was an upstanding, fun guy, and a safe person to be around.

Do the performative, attention seeking, rage bait posters on Twitter know more about what Jeffrey was like as a person that those who knew him and spent time with him? Somehow, I doubt it!

This summer I read ISBN 139780550103956 where sociologist David V. Barrett described religious anomalies.

I learned that the Church of Satan and the Family of God were not the only cults that praised (paedo)sexual freedom during the sexual revolution of the 1960s–70s.

The Church and school of Wicca founded in 1968 by Gavin and Yvonne Frost “have been criticized by some for appearing to advocate practices that could be considered pedophilic and incestous.” Even American religious Feminism was pedophile-friendly those days!

What happened to these cults in the 1980s can be seen from the example of Branch Davidians with their leader “having married the 14-year-old (and) began sexual relatinships with many of the women (i.e., teens) in his church.”

Nowadays even Satanists claim to be anti-MAP:

Occasinally, serial killers or child abusers may claim to be Satanists in order to justify their crimes, but investigations usually reveal that these individuals have little or no knosledge of real Satanism. Religiuos Satanism in fact holds life as precious, condemnes harming of children under any circumstances, and is against the killing of animals(.)

Who knows, may be early Christians were not always as anti-sexual as now.

Finally, this week I offered a passer-by to be my girlfriend, and she escaped. A railway worker saw it and demanded that I “respect people” here. Offering amorous relations in disrespect now!

I have no right to offer sex

Because someone don’t like my words.

Freedom of speech is telling that’s

Liked by all people, nothing more.

…smartphones and social media are linked to mental health problems in young people.

How about banning schools too, as bullying and shootings happen there. Let’s lock children in cages so that nothing and no one can hurt them [Sarcasm]

In the past “the science” claimed homosexuality was a mental illness. And now they have admitted it was a mistake and the guy they killed, based on laws based on that “science”, is smiling on their banknotes. Tell them this guy also dated 14 year olds boys, and they will dehumanize him a second time.

I understand that, Tom. I used quotation marks intentionally because these hypocrites always refer to Science, parts of which is limited by temporary prejudice. But each time they are sure that now they are right, because current “science” maintenances their current prejudices.

Damn, you are completely right!!! The massification of science has come with this horrible trend where people draw their own conclusions. But because they put the “it’s science” badge they think it’s incontestable.

It’s the typical correlation-causality trap. And the science that claimed that homosexuality is an illness is an excellent example. So let’s apply the same methodology of the social media studies to homosexuality studies. If we find a correlation between being gay and being more depressive, the conclusion is that it is an illness? Crazy!

Some time ago I had a conversation about prostitution. Same story. There is a study in a Northern European country that finds a correlation between doing prostitution and having mental issues. Her conclusion: we have to forbid prostitution because it’s bad for people. Did she ever consider that maybe those mental issues were, precisely, a result of the stigmas she and many others are promoting?

And it’s always like that. Superficial analyses. Banalisation of science.

Oh, I now understand what you meant. Thanks for pointing to this. I fell in the mistake of equating what sience is and what scientists and other people make of it.

I should definitely have said “scientists” instead “the science”. Or, “scientists + people interpreting survey results”.

I agree with your view about the essence of science. However, in practical science (AKA papers), the line is blurry, in my opinion. If you look at most surveys, they don’t simply give you the data (AKA the numbers). There is almost always an interpretation of such data towards a general claim. Sometimes the claim is clearly stated, for example, (I’m just making this up): “breastfeeding practices are more driven by culture than it has been thought”. The scientific component of this sentence is likely way weaker than the data it is based on. But I’d say most sociological studies have statements like that. Sometimes, the interpretation of the data is conveyed with language subtleties, unstated assumptions, and omissions.

So, in practical science, I think that studies that make general claims must examine and state the limitations of their methodology. For instance, in my earlier example about the prostitution paper, they should at least clearly state that their methodology is unable to tell if the mental issues are caused inherently by the prostitution itself (whatever that means), or by the social stigmas towards prostitution.

So in real-life science there are different stages of, let’s say, “scientific purity”. Firstly, we have the data, where concerns may arise about the statistical significance, adequate number of participants in surveys, recruiting strategies, etc. There is also the issue that, although we usually put them under the sambe umbrella of “science”, a Mathematical proof is very different from a survey. Then, you have the general claim of the paper or its conclusions, where there may be unstated assumptions or unstated methodological limitations, or where alternative explanations have not been considered. This is added to the fact that a conclusion is a generalization by itself; it’s like looking at a version of a picture with extremely low resolution. Then, we have distortion introduced by the people who read the paper, with their re-interpretations.

And with all this mess of the scientific method and its real-life dynamics, we eventually figure out how reality works and we make sense of it.

what geniuses do these studies? i have a bit of a hatred for northern european countries like norway and sweden. dotn they ever think that sex , even if paying for it is beneficial? especially for desperate folk like myself ?? well, they may as well ban doing porn as thats a form of prostitution in itself…

> i have a bit of a hatred for northern european countries like norway and sweden. dotn they ever think that sex, even if paying for it is beneficial?

Well known (except in the kept dumb phoney Anglophone) post-WW2 body-pride northern Europe centred around Denmark, was first and best for all porn and sex. Including uncoerced CP legal for 25 years from the late ’60s until the mid 1990s when bullshit body-guilt Anglos trashed the whole World into backward Victorian submission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Climax_Corporation

>i have a bit of a hatred for northern european countries

In 2020, the European Commission reported that in 2019, the Netherlands hosted 71% of the child porn detected in Europe by the Internet Watch Foundation, an increase from 47% in 2018.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_the_Netherlands

Genetics blogger Jayman posted a thread on Twitter/X yesterday, in which he criticized the prevailing narrative on CSA. Of course, just like Aella, he received quite a bit of hate and insults from crybully “survivors” in the comments, which I think is a big part of the reason why many people avoid this taboo subject.

Here’s a screenshot for those of you who don’t have an X account:

https://imgur.com/a/wO4GbXy

Turns out Imgur has recently blocked access to UK users. The UK’s Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) warned Imgur’s parent company, MediaLab, about a potential fine related to children’s data handling. This led Imgur to geoblock the UK from September 30, 2025, preventing UK users from viewing content.

I’ve reuploaded the screenshot to Dropbox. Here’s the link.

Sounds horrible :(. But I guess it is just how it worked these days in the less developed countries. I’d not be surprised if it still is like that in some countries in Asia or eastern Europe, and sadly, I’d not be surprised if even western countries still haf places like that.

I can certainly recognize the patterns from many movies I’ve seen about institutional care from my own country. People don’t care about kids really – especially disabled or parent-less, they just use them when they see fit.

I agree that trauma from real abuse should never be downplayed or minimized. However, telling children or adults who have experienced sexual or physical violence that they are mentally scarred for life, as is often done nowadays, is unhelpful and likely to cause them unnecessary fear and despair about their future. Society should recognize the trauma and injustice they have endured, while also reassuring them that they have a good chance of fully recovering psychologically in the long run.

Bruce Rind points out in the chapter he wrote for the book Ideological and Political Bias in Psychology that most children who experienced forced CSA go on to achieve complete mental health in adulthood:

Fuller-Thomson et al. (2019) used a Canadian nationally representative sample to examine the extent to which individuals having had CSA later achieved “complete mental health” (CMH) as adults. CMH was defned as “being happy or satisfed with life most days in the past month, having high levels of social and psychological well-being in the past month, and being free of mental illness in the past year.” In the study, CSA was restricted to forced sexual experiences as a child with an adult, and cases were excluded if physical abuse or parental domestic violence co-occurred in order to attempt to identify the independent association between CSA and CMH. Nearly two-thirds (65%) of those with forced CSA achieved CMH, a rate only somewhat lower than that found in the general population (77%)—computing the effect size yielded OR = 1.80, of small magnitude according to Salgado’s (2018) guidelines that small, medium, and large odds ratio effect sizes correspond to 1.44, 2.47, and 4.26, respectively. That is, the “effect,” if causal, was not intense as defned previously (i.e., a large effect size). Note that although certain factors were controlled for in the design (removing co-occurrence of physical abuse and parental domestic violence), other confounds could still have existed, preventing any confdent causal conclusion.

Jayman’s claim about Romanian orphanages did strike me as insensitive and I don’t like his wording, but he does make a fair point in bringing attention to the fact that most of the children in Romanian orphanages belong to the Roma ethnic group. This seems to be often overlooked by researchers. For example, this study compared the cognitive abilities of children who grew up in Romanian orphanages with those of children from British orphanages, most of whom are not Roma. It would make more sense for the control group to consist of non-orphaned Roma children rather than British children.

Jayman’s claim about Romanian orphanages did strike me as insensitive and I don’t like his wording.

I second that.

However, telling children or adults who have experienced sexual or physical violence that they are mentally scarred for life, as is often done nowadays, is unhelpful and likely to cause them unnecessary fear and despair about their future.

Yes, and I would add that when people make comments like “so disgusting!” when they hear about child sexual abuses, that’s not helpful either, since this re-victimizes them. And it is disrespectful both to the people who have suffered, and to their friends and relatives. If I see a child injured in Gaza, I would not say “so disgusting!”, especially if I am in front of other Palestinians, less so in front of the injured child!

Here are some news for the last four months:

There was an abuse crisis in Hungary, this must be what they are referring to.

From Agatha Christie’s Authobiography:

the real solace in her (Agatha Christie’s mother) life were the periodical visits of her aunt’s stepson–Fred Miller–her so-called “Cousin Fred”.

He was then about twenty and he was always extra kind to his little “cousin”.

One day, when she was about eleven, he said to his stepmother: “What lovely eyes Clara has got!”

Clara, who had always thought of herself as terribly plain, went upstairs and peered at herself in her aunt’s large dressing-table mirror.

Perhaps her eyes were rather nice…She felt immeasurably cheered.

From then on, her heart was given irrevocably to Fred.

Over in America an old family friend said to the gay young man, “Freddie, one day you will marry that little English cousin of yours.” Astonished, he replied, “Clara? She’s only a child.”

But he always had a special feeling for the adoring child. He kept her childish letters and the poems she wrote him, and after a long series of flirtations with social beauties and witty girls in New York (among them Jenny Jerome, afterwards Lady Randolph Churchill) he went home to England to ask the quiet little cousin to be his wife.

At the age of four I fell in love. It was a shattering and wonderful experience. The object of my passion was one of the Dartmouth cadets, a friend of my brother’s. Golden-haired and blue-eyed, he appealed to all my romantic instincts. He himself could have had no idea of the emotions he aroused. Gloriously uninterested in the “kid sister” of his friend Monty, he would probably have said, if asked, that I disliked him. An excess of emotion caused me to go in the opposite direction if I saw him coming, and when seated at the dining-table, to keep my head resolutely turned away. My mother took me gently to task.

“I know you”re shy, dear, but you must be polite. It’s so rude to turn your head away from Philip all the time, and if he speaks to you, you only mutter. Even if you dislike him, you must be polite.”

Dislike him! How little anyone knew. When I think of it now, how supremely satisfying early love can be. It demands nothing–not a look nor a word. It is pure adoration. Sustained by it, one walks on air, creating in one’s own mind heroic occasions on which one will be of service to the beloved one. Going into a plague camp to nurse him. Saving him from fire. Shielding him from a fatal bullet. Anything, indeed, that has caught the imagination in a story. In these imaginings there is never a happy ending. You yourself are burnt to death, shot, or succumb to the plague. The hero does not even know of the supreme sacrifice you have made. I sat on the nursery floor, and played with Tony, looking solemn and priggish, whilst inside my head a glorious exultation swirled in extravagant fancies. The months passed. Philip became a midshipman and left the Britannia. For a short while his image persisted and then dwindled. Love vanished, to return three years later, when I adored hopelessly a tall dark young Army captain who was courting my sister.

https://nibmehub.com/opac-service/pdf/read/agahta%20christie%20_%20an%20autobiography.pdf

I may quote you the same memoirs by actors Ivar Kalnynch and Michael Kozakov, but Fellini’s memoirs are the most erotic. From I, Fellini:

My earliest sexual memory that I think I remember was as a baby, lying on a kitchen table. There were huge distorted faces of women leaning over me, squealing with delight as they admired my little thing, and they seemed to be measuring it.

I remember my mother naked, in front of me. It was the only time I ever saw her naked. I could not yet walk. I was too young to speak, so she assumed I was too young to think, or to remember. But I saw the image, and I remember. It has been well established that we all remember more than we know. We remember, perhaps, even prenatally. I can remember crawling around on the floor and, from my perspective under the kitchen table, checking on what the maid had up her dress. It did not look inviting. It was dark and forbidding. I was probably two and a half at the time. I don’t think this had anything to do with sexual interest. It was just curiosity. It didn’t really become interesting until my mother pulled me out from under the table and scolded me. Then, as soon as I understood I was doing something forbidden, it became much more interesting. Even so early, I felt that “forbidden” and “pleasurable” were linked.

At that stage, my sexual interest was more centered on myself than on anyone else.

Shortly afterwards, for the first time I consciously studied my father without his clothes. It was interesting, but I don’t think I made the connection between my little thing and his well-endowed example.

My first really identifiable sexual stirrings occurred when I was four, or maybe just a little older. I didn’t quite know what I was feeling, but I knew I was feeling it. It was a localized tingling sensation, and I was faint with the pleasure of it. The inspiration for my excitement had blotchy skin and a shaven head. She was a lay sister with a religious order called the Sisters of San Vincenzo. I think she was about sixteen. I saw her as a mysterious older woman. I would follow her about, totally fascinated. I wasn’t certain if she was aware of my attention. Certainly she didn’t seem to mind. She would hug me against her body. It felt wonderful. She would move me from side to side, first against one of her ample breasts and then against the other. I could feel her nipples. All the time, there was this wonderful smell to her… At first I wasn’t quite certain, and then I recognized it. The magical erotic scent was potato skins and old soup. Her job was peeling the potatoes for the daily soup, and after it was ready, she would wipe her hands on her apron. Heaven! Her whole body was so soft and warm, so very warm. It felt so wonderful when she hugged me that it made me feel weak. I hoped it would never stop. At the time, I believed she was totally innocent and unaware of my motives or the effect she was having on me. Now I am certain she was enjoying herself, enjoying the effect she was having on one so young, so impressionable, and so. obviously and profoundly affected. After all these years, it’s difficult to remember a smell exactly, but I think if I were to smell it now, it would have the same magical effect on me. From that time on, I searched for the repetition of that total sensation. I have smelled many of the most expensive French perfumes created to entice, but I never smelled one that was so alluring as that combination of potato skins and old soup.

My earliest sex education came from priests who warned us against “touching” ourselves, perhaps giving some less imaginative boys ideas they might not otherwise have had. I’ve wondered what the nuns taught girls in their schools. Catholicism makes sex obsessively interesting. Catholicism has always had a repressive attitude toward sex when practiced for pleasure rather than procreation. It’s part of a generally repressive attitude toward pleasure of any kind, toward freedom, and toward individuality. On the other side, however, by making pleasurable sex forbidden, Catholicism does enhance the pleasure of it. Total, easy availability of sex diminishes desire. It’s like food. One needs to be a little hungry once in a while in order to fully enjoy the meal. For a time, I believed all women were aunts. I was overcome by excitement if I saw a woman in an evening dress. I discovered rather quickly that all women were not aunts. I saw Madam Dora’s house where the women painted themselves, wore veils, and smoked goldtipped cigarettes. The brothel, the house of prostitution, is an important experience.

From Making a film:

The giantess Sargina was the first prostitute I ever saw in my life. It happened on the beach in Fano, where college students from the Salesian monastery spent their summer holidays. She was nicknamed Sargina because sailors paid her for her favors with a kilo or two of the cheapest fish, most often sargina. She charged us boys even less, contenting herself with a few coins, a handful of roasted chestnuts, gold buttons from our uniforms, or candles we stole from the church. Saragina lived in a dilapidated fortification that had been left on the shore after World War I. It was a real den, smelling of resin, rotten wood, and fish. For two soldi, she showed the quiet boys her backside, which covered the whole sky; for three, she swayed her hips slightly; and for four, she turned to face us. What an enormous belly! And what was that furry thing under it — a cat?

You will surely say, “What is this, Federico, another big woman, another giantess…”

Yes, it is true that my films often feature women with voluptuous figures, large and powerful… But Sargina is a child’s idea of a woman, one of the thousands of diverse manifestations that a woman is capable of. Sargina, generously endowed with a kind of animal femininity, huge, immense, and at the same time seductively appetizing… This is how an Italian teenager, hungry for real life and sex, sees her, a teenager who is insecure and tormented by priests, the church, his family, and a poor upbringing. In his search for a woman, in his craving for her, this teenager imagines her as someone who is “plentiful.” He is like a poor man who, thinking about money, indulges in delusional dreams not of a thousand lire, but of millions, billions.

I can also see a scene from our hero’s childhood, when he, having discovered Saragina and shaken by this discovery, comes to her again, alone, in his school uniform. It is a very bright sunny day, and the calm sea exudes a wonderful aroma. There is not a soul around, and in this enchanted silence, Saragina’s voice can be heard: she is humming something, like the most ordinary girl. She hums and darns her socks, sitting on a child’s chair by the water. Such a mysterious and frightening image of a mother. Is it any wonder that the boy sees her exactly as his mother? In our country, there is a veritable cult of motherhood: mothers, mothers-in-law, and all kinds of great mothers occupy a dominant place in this fascinating iconography and in our personal and public lives: the Holy Mother of God, the Passion-Bearer Mother, Mama Roma, Mother Wolf, Motherland, our mother Church. But can this excessive presence, this abundance of mothers, be considered justified? I want to try to interpret everything in my own way, at the risk of incurring the wrath of some psychoanalyst. It seems to me that all this excess testifies, rather, to the absence of the mother. Are we not constantly being fed all kinds of surrogates and fetishes instead of a mother? This is precisely what industry, the market that sells eroticism as a commodity, and pornography are engaged in. So we have always lacked a “kind, loving mother,” and we feel this lack and too often feel like little children. The prostitute is a kind of counterpoint, the main companion of the mother in the Italian sense. It is impossible to understand one without understanding the other. And if our mother fed and clothed us, then it was just as inevitable — at least for my generation — that a prostitute introduced us to sex. We all owe them, we are all indebted to the women who managed to temporarily replace our desires, our hopes, our fantasies, directing them into a certain channel; often it was all pitiful, miserable, but still wonderful. For although a prostitute is a creature from hell, she still retains the power and charm of a being that seems to have come from some otherworldly realm. She is incomprehensible and therefore appears to us as enormous and elusive, omniscient and simple-minded. Just like our fantasies, which she not only takes away from us, but also brings to life.

Many of you who follow the news will be aware of the UK’s Online Safety Act coming into effect, and similar legislation in other brain broken countries like Australia.

I was wondering if and when we’d see criticism in scholarship, and here it is:

Petley, J. (2025). Porn and the OSA: what about the children? Porn Studies, 12(3), 362–386. https://doi.org/10.1080/23268743.2025.2476961

And: Petley, J. (2025). Forget about the children: the right-wing backlash against the Online Safety Act. Porn Studies, 1–6. https://doi.org/10.1080/23268743.2025.2553646

The first is open access and the second, unfortunately not. These come from a very senior scholar, and an educated Left-winger, which I’m happy to see.

Hopefully, they’ll be useful.

Hi,

I saw all your recent work on Wiki. It was wonderful! It’s not every day that the site receives so much new content like this.
Without wanting to overstep, since you published about the War On Sex, have you read or considered creating an article on Hatred of Sex (2022)? It’s a book that discusses topics adjacent to attraction to minors, especially about the ideologies and clinical practices developed around relationships between adults and children. The authors discuss a lot about this new regime around sexual trauma from a psychoanalytic perspective— which seems to me a more appropriate and sensitive approach to particular sexual experiences than a single ideology that almost disciplinarily claims certain interactions are abusive, and from that, leads to the conclusion that trauma is inevitable, intense, and pervasive.

I also saw that you are creating pages about literary critics. Do you have plans to create one for Leo Bersani in the future? I haven’t had the capacity to delve into his work or that of Lee Edelman, but I see a certain potential in their work.
I would also add D&G to this list, but I think that would require more work to conceptualize—if that’s even possible or just something potential— their work from a MAP perspective. I’m not sure if a next valid step for the community, from a theoretical standpoint, would be to begin imagining a “MAP ethics” or to try reproducing through art and other cultural expressions new ways of life that make relationships between adults and children a possible reality, escaping the repressive control of institutions.

Lastly, I also saw that you have a background in social history and study the history of the homosexual movement. I want to ask if you see any parallels between supportive homosexual movements (by support, I mean the creation of communities where members seek to support each other and share experiences) and any representation or initiatives within the current MAP movement, and whether you see the possibility of creating groups to support MAP peers in difficult situations or in societies with almost no MAP representation (for example, outside of Anglo-speaking countries and providing support to MAPs who may be serving sentences, for instance).

If you made it this far, thank you very much 🙂

Warning: Long response incoming! :p

Hi there Nicholas, sorry for my slow reply! And I’m glad you liked the pages! My Newgon User Page has lots of links, in case you want to read more… Did you see my recent additions to the LGBT history page? Super interesting imo!

I discovered that “the publications of Friedrich Radszuweit, the leader of Germany’s first mass homosexual organization (the League for Human Rights), included images of male youths,” [putting it mildly], and that Adolf Brand, an Anarchist and publisher of the very first gay journal Der Eigene, also published the first gay poetry anthology – with both publications viewing man/boy relations positively. I also discovered a PhD student who’s written a well evidenced and non-stigmatizing history of the NAMBLA / ILGA controversy, which I linked in various places as: Tyler Carson (Rutgers University, PhD) The International Lesbian and Gay Association’s Suspension from the United Nations, 1993-1994, (2024/2025, Out History).

Onto your questions:

Yes, I’ve heard of Hatred of Sex (2022), though I won’t be reading it myself anytime soon. On the flipside, here’s a review of the book written for the Percy Foundation, which has some critical thoughts on the book’s arguments in relation to MAPs, age of consent laws, etc. To quote the piece:

Davis and Dean remain coyly vague about exactly what they mean by “benign sexual inappropriateness.” Arguing that appropriate is the new straight, they write, “it is occasional or infrequent sex in the context of a long-term secure, amative, intimate, emotionally rich, age-appropriate, and marriage-like relationship that is the new standard.” (p. 98; italics added) Yet, anybody paying attention to the landscape of sexual politics since Rubin’s 1984 essay will see that there is only one thing in that list that has acquired definitive evidential power in judging whether or not a sex act has reached the level of an atrocity. Davis and Dean never offer any analysis of age/the age of consent, and the symbolic work it performs in cleansing society of its sexual shame by creating a colonial realm of “savage” predatoriness counterposed against the refined and civilized world of age-equal sexuality. The fact that age has not been significantly addressed in Hated of Sex is surprising given how close to the issue of age its arguments run.

Leo Bersani, Deleuze and Guattari? I’ve read bits of each, but to my knowledge only D&G ever said anything overtly sympathetic about pedophilia, age gap sex, etc. It was the Leftist anti-fascist Guattari, I believe, who compared the treatment of MAPs in his day to the past treatment of Jews by the Nazis. When I looked into this years ago, I didn’t feel there was enough there to warrant a page on them at the time. Especially so, because I have never gotten access to the famous Recherches journal special issue, from 1973, edited by Guattari and titled “Three Billion Perverts” (“Trois milliards de pervers”). This publication, as described by queer historian Kadji Amin in his Disturbing Attachments book,

is composed of a combination of erotic photos and drawings, homosexual “détournements” of comics and illustrations from French Boy Scout novels, masturbatory autobiographic narratives, and transcribed conversations, along with more recognizably political declarations and analyses. […] This erotic and, indeed, pornographic frankness is likely why Guattari was found guilty, as the editor, of affronting public decency: his apartment was searched, and the existing journal issues were confiscated. […] The chapter on pedophilia […] censored as recently as 2002 in the special issue’s online publication, opens with a transcribed dialogue between Max, a forty-year-old pederast who prefers adolescents but occasionally has sex with prepubescent boys, and his former boy beloveds, twenty-five-year-old Truc and nineteen-year-old Albert, both of whom are now heterosexual.

Last time I checked, this issue was the only one not available to view on the official archive website… If anyone can find an archive of this document, a translation of the text, or has access to a relevant university archive and wants to take a day trip to photograph the doc, you could publish it to Libgen / Annas Archive for all to see.

That’d be a great service to the world, and would help add material and evidence for wider discussions of ‘radical’ sexual liberation thought and arguments within French philosophy, critical theory and queer theory. Another relevant French text would be Philippe Sollers’ L’infini magazine, which published Retour en enfance: La question pédophile (Back to childhood: The pedophile question), in Collection Revue L’Infini (no.59) Gallimard (Autumn, 1997), intended to be “far from the climate of lynching and generalized right-[wing?] thinking.”

I’ve read Bersani’s famous “Is the Rectum a Grave?” essay, and although it’s possible and plausible that Bersani’s work says ‘edgy’ or reasonable things about pederasty in gay history, I’ve not seen anything especially noteworthy. I certainly could look into it, download PDFs of his books and articles, and search keywords…

I am pretty sure that Roland Barthes, one of the people responsible for giving the “out” MAP Tony Duvert a literary award, and a signatory one the French anti age of consent law petitions, probably had ‘heretical’ thoughts. Wordsearching his writings could prove fruitful… Though, if you or anyone else has quotes from these figures handy, feel free to post them :p …

Lastly, I also saw that you have a background in social history and study the history of the homosexual movement. I want to ask if you see any parallels between supportive homosexual movements […] and any representation or initiatives within the current MAP movement.

>Well, there are definitely parallels between the LGBT movement and MAP Movement, with many people using Harris Mirkin’s article on “The Pattern of Sexual Politics” (1999) [IPCE ver.] to argue that we’re in the 1st stage of any such movement – “The battle to prevent the battle” – if that. Another major, more recent comparative piece comes from gay historian David F. Greenberg, from his chapter in Censoring Sex Research: The Debate over Male Intergenerational Relations (2013).

From the vantage point of 2025, we can now argue that the internet, social media, and the move from text and physical media to visual and digital media, is the biggest difference between LGBTQ(P) then and MAPs now. The internet is a place of great possibility and potential, giving creators, companies, etc., the capacity to reach millions and pummel them with media 24/7, without the need for pesky journalistic or broadcasting standards that came with traditional media. It’s great for spreading a message, but limited by the platforms themselves which are ultimately businesses and want to avoid lawsuits, negative press, and keep users active on their services.

In the Mattachine Era of early Homo rights, members were told not to hold hands as they arrived: anyone next to them could be a FED. Bathroom stalls got raided by the cops, vigilantes organized and went “gay bashing,” hunting the gays for sport. It really was that bad: the parallels to MAPs are blindingly obvious…

I’m confident that if the 1950s era stigma around gayness were transplanted to the internet age, gays would be treated exactly like MAPs are today. Called “faggots,” “sick,” “perverts,” etc., – only this time they’d have their accounts blocked, banned, reported, and maybe even be doxxed and investigated by police. Their websites would be taken down and tons of performative “holier than thou” grifters would make content portraying them as dangerous deviants.

Adult-adult gays made progress partly because print culture was far more underground; much harder to prohibit, police, and censor. Digital content, not so…

As far as “creating groups to support MAPs” goes, including in non-Western countries, it’s possible but takes dedication, a lifestyle or means of income making organizing possible, and a willingness to be polarizing. Beyond the Plus is quite bravely trying focus on forming in-person connections in America. Support organizations around mental health such as B4U-ACT, or the OnwardWell Foundation (whose Executive Director is incredibly sympathetic and recently spoke at B4U-ACT), also have the secondary function of bringing people together IRL…

In Japan, the obvious rallying cry would be artistic freedom and manga and anime, which are constantly under threat of censorship and criminalization. This would be a great thing to organize around, having widespread appeal and the advantage of plausible (and legitimate) deniability. You don’t have to be a “MAP organisation,” but the hard part is that whatever you do, it will impact your sense of self, change your life and impact you emotionally.

It all depends on your own situation, and I would just advise people to ensure they are legally safe before they get involved IRL, and be well-aware that you’ll likely get lots of backlash and negative comments / messages if you or your org. gain any meaningful traction.

You can’t do or focus on everything, so pick a wedge issue that’s important to you, and see if you can join a relevant org. or start your own. There are tons of routes you could go down, from becoming a content creator, starting a media production company, or founding an NGO or non-profit. What’s your goal? Do you want mass influence? Or, to have a quieter, on-the-ground presence, like many charities that work to help ex-offenders re-integrate post-conviction? There are people making consistent effort, like the Youtuber Common Sense Laws, who helps ex-offenders “flee” the United States for Germany.

The world is your oyster when it comes to making a difference, but like every life, job, etc., it’ll come with unique joys, challenges and hardships…

A very fair note of caution, Tom. It is difficult to know what kind of pictures or illustrations Guattari had included which got him in trouble. Images I saw that have been reproduced publicly included a woman masturbating anally, and a drawing of a french police officer with no trousers having his asshole on display.

I’m not sure what other illustrations or photographs would be included that could “affront public deceny” in France, 1973. Taking the piss out of cops, portraying them as homos, might itself have pissed off the authorities.

But yes, you’re right to note caution, there could well be some risqué drawings or photos relating to the young ones. They were French, and it was 1973 after all!!

If anyone does get ahold of it, then the best thing to do would be to focus on getting the text out there, especially the apparently still unavailable/censored chapter on “pedophilia.”

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For good measure, here’s the photographer Gearon you mentioned, defending her photos of her young children: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/mar/13/childprotection

She doesn’t see them as sexual / erotic photos, basically. She’s seeing them through her eyes, the teiliophilic gaze, and not the imagined pedophile’s desire that the cops are imagining, which academia has dubbed the “paedophilic gaze.”

Interestingly, Gearon argues for the innocence of her children, but also writes that

my daughter is an incredibly sensuous little girl, and will sometimes strike poses that are rather erotic, as most little girls do.

All I can say is: I’m glad I’m not a family photographer!!

It is refreshing to read those calls for action you wrote. You point out realistic caveats but it feels very optimistic. Let’s not panic. We can do a lot of stuff.

A suggestion to readers who are approached by a “minor” of social or dating media:

  1. Create a decoy adult profile. Use ugly photographs and detail something or someone they would have no interest in pursuing, unless they themselves were a decoy. Make a non-sexual approach. Assess their response as either indicative or non-indicative of a law enforcement or vigilante decoy.
  2. Respond with interest as a writer or researcher. Show considerable interest in the person, but from the perspective of a writer who wants to document the reality of minors seeking sexual contact on dating apps. There is of course nothing illegal about meeting them for these purposes, unless your local laws mandate you to report. You should be clear that you do not wish to incriminate yourself.

This, or at least a shortened version of it, is how I ultimately deal with “minors” on Grindr. I tell them flatly, they are in effect incriminating me, and I can no longer deal with them for that reason.

Remember, the prime objective of a decoy is to get “travelers” as they say in the trade. These are the low-hanging fruit who agree to meet for SEXUAL purposes and agree to TRAVEL or MEET in some way.

A SECONDARY objective (but lower in priority) is to establish you have involved a minor in INAPPROPRIATE conversation. So be clear on your side – the communication is non-sexual in nature. If they try to involve you in this type of conversation, this is entirely a thing of their own choosing, and you will not be a part of it.

On an unrelated note, here is a recent article I wrote on antis who kill their own children.

I read this and thought no way could any online exchange continue to proceed along such lines without becoming hopelessly self-parodic, chaotic and quite hopeless.i try to out the list of advisories together to form a coherent plan-of-action but cannot. Any ostensible goal long since left the building

Could anyone provide a sample of such a dialogue without falling to pieces laughing ?

Am i wrong as an owl in a treetop on this score or what, Strat?

A suggestion to readers who are approached by a “minor” of social or dating media

> Much respect to you Strat, as always, but the best response if approached is to not reply and delete / block the supposed “minor.”

If you’re on a dating site and god forbid a hot 25-year-old you’re messaging suddenly says she’s actually 15, imo you should get the hell outta there and not reply in any way. From my memory of reading sex offence expert Emily Horowitz, in some States in the United States, it is an offence in-itself to continue a conversation that has any sexual component, after that person has claimed they are “a minor.” Once that person claims to be underage, any reply you make, whether it’s just “so what the fuck are you messaging me for?“, can be construed as an attempt to continue “a sexual conversation with a child.”

In her book Protecting Our Kids?: How Sex Offender Laws Are Failing Us, Horowitz discusses the terrifying case of a man who was preyed upon through the website “Adult Friend Finder,” and naively continued a conversation out of curiosity and paid dearly for it.
To anyone reading: do not be like this man. Protect yourself.

I can’t verify the case in the book, but I would strongly suspect the man continued the conversation with a law enforcement/decoy in a way that left no doubt he believed the decoy was real, and also participated in inappropriate communication.

This would be a bare minimum, and it is true that some of these law enforcement operations have prosecuted men who never travelled or agreed to meet, especially when few of the other men are complying with the operation as intended.

There is of course the question of who is actually the decoy? In a recent UK case, a woman was convicted for sending obscene communications, despite claiming to be a decoy performing the “age-switch” hoax. It is indeed true that for a civilian to run a successful decoy operation, they must in effect produce and disseminate obscene material – that is, “child pornography” of some sort.

There is also the question of police ethics in all of this.

In multiple recent cases, law-enforcement officers have pretended to be adults who are either selling or offering their “child” for free to suspected “pedophiles”. This begs a very important question: When a person interacts with such a decoy, but choses not to believe or go along with the “available child” hoax, are law enforcement offering appropriate aftercare to those individuals to diffuse the confected impression that a child might be available for sex via their own parents?

If not so, it could be argued (very strongly IMO) that law enforcement are in fact complicit in promoting the idea that children (often very young, preteens) can be sought by sex offenders via contact with their parents, and encouraging the demand side of that behaviour. Far from putting criminals behind bars, this would be putting real children in danger by creating demand.

I’d like to investigate the idea of FOI-ing some police departments or bodies with oversight on these matters.

To my understanding, this cannot be done in European countries, since it would be considered that it constitutes an incitement to commit a crime. In US/UK I would not be surprised that they don’t give a damn about this principle.

Tom, among Anglo SexNet’s modern scholars, Bailey, Blanchard et al, after all these years still agonizing in denial over juvenile sexuality. Surely someone has noted centuries of natural minors in brutal boarding schools and elsewhere Worldwide healthy WANKING over imagination and images of HOT adults also seen daily in modern hypocrite Anglo ‘Family’ media. And now Worldwide unstoppable Gen Selfie-Sext shares healthy sexual images of adults and themselves.

While horrific War Porn of children daily devastated and destroyed, is Anglo fake media for profit not demonized but normalized 24/7 free to air for all ages – WTF?!.

Minors not sexual until the arrogant Anglo ‘disordered’ DSM declares it! “Get the fuck outta here d’ya hear?!”

Quote, adult Anglo (Celtic/Pagan heritage) late great ‘Love Magnet’ dry-wit Lennon asked what he thought of the Beatles constantly chased by young girls, “I think it’s terrible. Backstage and in bedrooms it’s like Fellini’s ‘Satyricon’ (writhing bodies everywhere.”

Since year dot, no one can stop juvenile happy pups humping.

https://www.google.com/search?q=+masturbation+in+english+single+sex+boarding+schools&/

Thanks for your prompt reply Tom.

Still, in 25% done Century 21 how much more evidence is needed of Worldwide HORNY minors including AAMs HOT for healthy sex, offline and online? Millions of unstoppable minors sharing healthy sex pleasure and images of sexual pleasure with adults and each other.

Yet only backward neo-Victorian Anglos still demonize and criminalize such healthy natural pleasure since year dot as ‘HARMFUL’. While perversely normalizing HORRIFIC War Porn 24/7 for profit from children bloodied, devastated, and destroyed in searing pain, free to air for all-ages;

Suggest a new perverse blog, “WarNet – no sex or sense please we’re Anglos”.

An article about political violence:

Unless you live entirely off-grid, or never read the news, you will doubtless have heard about the assassination of Conservative pundit Charlie Kirk. His shooting shocked many around the world, but it didn’t surprise me at all. As a MAP, I’ve seen the extent to which people can be demonized, and how their voices can be drowned out entirely, with both the right and the left more or less equally to blame. When a person feels they have no voice, what are they to do? Many will suffer in silence, perhaps become a recluse. Others will grow bitter, possibly lashing out from time to time. For a very small number of people, the response can be altogether more violent.

In this article, I will discuss political violence in light of the effective collapse of peaceful political participation. I will look at it from both a MAP and non-MAP perspective. It’s important to remember that this is a nihilistic philosophical discussion, and I don’t want readers actually going out and engaging in political violence. If you feel you may be unable to distinguish between theoretical discussion and a call to action, please do not proceed with this article.

https://www.brianribbon.com/home/the-unfortunate-inevitability-of-political-violence

Bhana, D., & Lucke, S. (2025). Childhood Sexualities: On Pleasure and Meaning from the Margins. Sex & Sexualities, 0(0). https://doi.org/10.1177/30333717251375994

Abstract

Sexualities scholarship marginalizes childhood sexual pleasure, positioning children as vulnerable subjects. This article repositions childhood sexualities within a pleasure-centered, globally oriented, and power-aware frame informed by feminist, queer, and decolonial perspectives.

Drawing on Southern research from South Africa and other contexts, we interrogate dominant narratives of sexual innocence that suppress young people’s desires and show how children negotiate pleasure and meaning amid intersecting hierarchies of age, race, gender, and class.

Regarding the issue of voting and driving a car, you should inform that cultural anthropologist that you (and probably himself) were born with a willie, and not a steering wheel, between your legs.

Well, you you could also formulate the concept as a questionnaire for the cultural anthropologist:

***********

You said “And children should be able to drink, drive, and vote as well”.
Please answer: What did nature provide you with, between your legs, when you were born?

  • a bottle of vodka (yes/no)
  • a steering wheel (yes/no)
  • a ballot (yes/no)
  • a willie capable of erection (yes/no)

***********

Apparently, even people of culture are so conditioned by the dominant morality that they by default compare human sexuality to non-natural actions…

To me, the most disturbing fact is that despite all the social problems linked to alcohol (from absurd fights leading to irreversible injuries, to fatal car accidents, to domestic violence against women and children, to sexually abusive behaviors that are later painfully regretted, etc etc etc), no one ever dares to forbid alcohol to adults!

Alcohol is bad for health, and it can lead to dangerous or violent behaviour. A motor vehicle is a dangerous object, driving it can cause severe injuries, and many people die from it every year. Of courses, the underlying logic of the argument is that sex is bad for health and dangerous.
As for voting, at age 9 a son of one of my nieces was very interested in politics, and he stated what were his two favourite political parties.

if it wasnt for alcohol id have no experience with females at all. but , with all the prejudice in the world it made me drink more and now im fucked. yeh, driving is not dangerous, they let chidren do it ! i despair. in america even a bare butt is considered dangerous. guns, no siree!

My thoughts…

Overall, great scholarly article. Not too long. Well referenced. Straight to the point. Sticking to a single, clear, and understandable idea: sexual pleasure of children is systematically ignored in scholarly work.

Now, the observations stated in the article are to the point, but it inexplicably misses on the fundamental reason why we should care about child sexuality. Spoiler: it’s not the pleasure. It’s the impact on dignity!! The authors are right that children are being treated as objects all the time, and that their inner feelings are systematically repressed (by what people say and by what people don’t say). It follows, then, that their dignity is severely impacted as individuals. If repressing an adult is unacceptable and inhuman, what the hell makes people think that it will feel okay to children to be repressed? I am suprised that the word ‘dignity’ doesn’t even appear in the text. I think that the focus on pleasure in the article makes people misunderstand where the importance of child sexuality comes from (like in the comment Tom quoted from Sexnet).

I insist: Pleasure is quite important, but dignity is absolutely fundamental!!! Otherwise, without this clarification, it is impossible to understand the key underlying differences between the restrictions on alcohol and the restrictions on sex. Forbidding a child from taking alcohol may feel annoying to them but does not impact their dignity (no matter how much “pleasure” can be obtained from alcohol), whereas forbidding to have sexual contact has an enormous impact on the ego. This is because of the significance that sexuality has in us. When the concept of dignity is understood, then it becomes clear that we can’t prevent children from having sex simply because there is a risk of abuse.

And another detail. I read at the top “research article”, but I don’t consider it as such, since it doesn’t have the property of reproducibility and it doesn’t establish a methodology beforehand. My comment is general to all such kind of sociological articles. If they had done a literature survey about how many articles say X and how many say Y, then yes it would be research. Don’t take me wrong. My comment doesn’t take out the fact that such philosophy-oriented articles are extremely valuable, and this one is especially insightful. One thing I like about it is that it is not cumbersome with too much sociologic jargon or complicated arguments. The whole article is the development of a single idea. It is a useful article since it explains how research on child&sex has focused on risks and abuses, whereas the dimension of pleasure has been ignored (the same could be said about news articles, but that would merit another comment).

Anyway, interesting read!

Interesting crossing of messages around the world 🙂

But it seems like in humans, the more recent focus on childhood sexual activity as real or potential sexual harm and abuse (following the trauma model) has taken up most or all of the scientific oxygen

It would be interesting to quantify the above statement. Like searching words like ‘abuse’ and ‘pleasure’ on papers that contain the word ‘child’ and building a timeline graph.

The days of the Kinsey Report are getting far, aren’t they? 

Glad to hear that there are places beyond the MAP niche where there is criticism over all that panic on child sexuality, with such nuanced thoughtful comments.

Indeed, the term ‘abuse’ has been… well… abused of.

Time ago, I found myself in a conversation where a woman said something about the pedophiles and I asked her to clarify the definition of such term. She immediately asked me “What do you mean?! That’s wrong!”, while opening her eyes like two burning oranges. We got to a point where people expect you to blindly condemn words, regardless of their meaning.

while ignoring things like taking them up dangerous mountains. yes, take your 5 year olds up crib goch! but god forbid you take photo of someone who is 6,573 days old.

Im lucky i live near the mountains its great to get away from the bullshit. No crib goch though for me… But yeh weird usnt it you got 13 year olds climbing el capitan but they are deemed incapable if anything else..

Amazing that this paper has generated so much discourse!

Pedro Pinto and Catriona Macleod, A Genealogy of Puberty Science : Monsters, Abnormals, and Everyone Else (Routledge, 2019).

A Genealogy of Puberty Science explores the modern invention of puberty as a scientific object. Drawing on Foucault’s genealogical analytic, Pinto and Macleod trace the birth of puberty science in the early 1800s and follow its expansion and shifting discursive frameworks over the course of two centuries.

Offering a critical inquiry into the epistemological and political roots of our present pubertal complex, this book breaks the almost complete silence concerning puberty in critical theories and research about childhood and adolescence. Most strikingly, the book highlights the failure ​of ongoing medical debates on early puberty to address young people’s sexual and reproductive embodiment and citizenships.

I’ve linked this book on a few Newgon pages because it seems pretty important. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a detailed deconstruction, critical questioning, of the concept of “puberty” itself. So this at least sounds particularly unique and welcome.

Noticed I’d linked to queer theorists who had positive things to say but none of them were on Newgon. Have now updated links on pages like Queer and Queer Theory, and made profiles for:

  • And Kathryn Bond Stockton [For whom I deliberately chose the hottest photo I could find; god she was a cutie! Stunning!]

I also made a page for the 2017 book The War on Sex, edited by David M. Halperin, and Trevor Hoppe. A great book with contributions from Judith Levine, Scott De Orio, and Roger Lancaster, with an introduction written by Halperin, who is a huge name in the world of queer theory.

As a classicist whose writings frequently discuss pederasty or “Greek Love” (his terms), Halperin is the co-founder of GLQ: A Journal of Lesbian and Gay Studies, is old enough to have known what it means to be part of the despised, and wrote the most influential definition of “Queer” which he deliberately formulated to be inclusive of you lot:

Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal, the legitimate, the dominant. There is nothing in particular to which it necessarily refers. It is an identity without an essence. “Queer,” then, demarcates not a positivity but a positinality vis-a-vis the normative – a positionality that is not restricted to lesbians and gay men but is in fact available to anyone who is or who feels marginalized because of her or his sexual practices: it could include some married couples without children, for example, or even (who knows?) some married couples with children – with, perhaps, very naughty children.

Epstein is on everybody’s lips!

A statue featuring Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein recently appeared outside the U.S. Capitol, depicting the two holding hands. The statue was removed shortly after its installation, leading to controversy regarding its message and the relationship between the two figures.

Meanwhile, the satirical news outlet The Onion, has apparently made its own Epstein Mockumentary. Titled “Bad Pedophile,” there’s a trailer and a poster claiming it’ll be shown in select cinemas in early October…

Last but not least, Prince Andrew’s ex-wife, the Duchess of York Sarah Ferguson, has been dropped by children’s charities she’d worked with. This follows apparent revelations that she maintained a private friendship with Epstein after disingenuously / performatively condemning him to the public. Reportedly, she wrote:

“I know you feel hellaciously let down by me from what you were either told or read and I must humbly apologise to you and your heart for that. […] I was instructed to act with the utmost speed if I would have any chance of holding on to my career as a children’s book author and a children’s philanthropist,” she is said to have written. “As you know, I did not, absolutely not, say the ‘P word’ about you but understand it was reported that I did.”

Indeed, in everybody’s lips.

I know I will simplify a bit, but I think this is a move from left/libertarian movements, often accused to support immoral sexual behaviors. So Epstein is a juicy pray to use against the most prominent figures of the right/royalty. And, boy, they will make it last as much as they can. Too juicy.

And while everybody is super busy speaking about Epstein, nobody speaks about juvenile sexuality.

Disagree completely. The reason Epstein is a salient issue is because the GOP ran on releasing the list. They accused ‘the elites’ of a coverup and a conspiracy to protect “pedophiles”. The Epstein list was a core issue for the Trump campaign, not the left. This only shifted once it became politically uncomfortable for Trump to release the Epstein files. I agree that juvenile sexuality is ignored by both sides.

I am probably missing an important chunk of North American politics, because I don’t get it. If Trump himself had been so friends with Epstein, why would he want to campaign for releasing the list?

Maybe he did what you mention about running on releasing the list just to promote conspiracy theories *before* the election, to trigger people’s rebellion feelings and vote for him and the ‘head of the rebels’. He was probably aware that this could potentially put him in trouble *afterwards*, but who cares! As long as he eventually gets elected… Maybe he thought “If I eventually get elected and people ask to release the list, I’ll just make up something.”

Epstein list was a core issue for the Trump campaign, not the left. 

Okay. It looks like now the situation has reversed.

What you said explains why it has been a core issue during the campaign, and how GOP wanted to exploit this issue. I am trying to understand why the anti-Trump are exploiting this topic so much to become a core issue.

Why wouldn’t they exploit it? If the GOP runs on releasing the Epstein files and then backtracks on this promise when it becomes politically damaging, why wouldn’t the Democrats make an issue about this? It would be political malpractice if they didn’t. Especially since Republicans have been accusing Democrats of being involved in the Epstein coverup.

Of course the entire thing is just tiresome “pedophilia” moral panic, but I really don’t think the left is to blame.

Especially since Republicans have been accusing Democrats of being involved in the Epstein coverup

Yes.

Of course the entire thing is just tiresome “pedophilia” moral panic

Indeed.

but I really don’t think the left is to blame.

Well, since I observe that I am more leftist than rightist, my moral rectitude expectations about left parties are higher. So of course my opinion is biased by that. I am disappointed that so much time is spent in conspiracies and counter-conspiracies, accusations and counter-accusations, re-ignition of moral panics, mediatisation of the already-mediatised, and so on… that we, as a society, never sit to talk about this topic in a serious way (except in forums like this one). My expectations about the left (assuming that Dems are the left, which I am aware is a huge simplification of reality) is that they do something to stop this vicious circle. They are not. They are going to exorcize the spectre over and over.

My expectations about the left (assuming that Dems are the left, which I am aware is a huge simplification of reality) is that they do something to stop this vicious circle. They are not. They are going to exorcize the spectre over and over.

To break this vicious circle, a third party is needed to expose hypocrisy of both sides and political flirtation with fictitious “conspiracies” and moral panic. As long as there are two of them, they will blame each other, forcing observers to take one side while remaining in a black and white world.

Indeed, Harlan. That’s why I don’t expect a sexual revolution to come from the US, in this day and age, although I might be wrong.

I was instructed to act with the utmost speed if I would have any chance of holding on to my career

Everything you need to know about politically correct dictatorship. People are simply being hypocritical out of fear for their careers.

Softly, As I Leave You: Life After Elvis (Hardcover – September 23, 2025)
A new book from the “King of Rock and Roll” Elvis Presley’s now 80-year-old wife, Priscilla, who met Elvis when she was 14…

As quoted on MU [thanks to everyone who posts there!]:

Priscilla Presley has refuted claims that her relationship with Elvis constituted “pedophilia” despite being just 14 years old when they first met, as she reveals intimate details about their marriage in her latest memoir.

In her new book, Softly, As I Leave You: Life After Elvis, Priscilla explores her romance with The King of Rock and Roll, along with the challenges she endured regarding her late daughter, Lisa Marie Presley.

Refuted? Really? Surely noone in the public eye would do that?? I do wonder what the film with cailee spaeny portrays .. cailee spaeny us quite hot. For an old woman 🙂

It’s likely that Priscilla simply wants to make her story as relatable as possible to a broad audience and feels that this requires denying she had sex with Elvis while underage. I would recommend reading the book *Child Bride: The Untold Story of Priscilla Beaulieu Presley by Suzanne Finstad.

In the book, Finstad cites Wes Bryan and Currie Grant recalling that Paul Beaulieu phoned Elvis at Graceland around Thanksgiving 1966 and threatened him:

Paul Beaulieu telephoned Graceland and ‘told Elvis he would put him under the damn jail if he didn’t marry Priscilla.

 Finstad describes the marriage as effectively arranged between Elvis and the Beaulieus:

The Beaulieus had, in effect, made an arranged marriage for their teenage daughter… Elvis told his stepmother, Dee, that he had ‘promised Priscilla’s father’ he would marry her

Currie Grant and his girlfriend Carrol were the ones who introduced Priscilla to Elvis and witnessed their first date, though others were also present. They claim that after spending some time talking in the living room, Elvis took Priscilla to his bedroom, where they stayed for about four hours, until after midnight:

By eight-thirty or so, Elvis was taking her up the stairs to his bedroom. Priscilla would later claim, publicly, that she and Elvis were downstairs all evening, talking, but others who were in the house remember them disappearing to Elvis’s upstairs room. Priscilla later admitted this to Mike Edwards. “He just took her by the hand, went up the stairs and said, ‘We’ll be down later,’ ” Currie recalled. “And she just went right with him. That’s when I began to worry, because I know Elvis. There were many times when he’d taken girls up there. He’s got no idea of timing. I had to get this girl back by midnight.”

Thus Priscilla Beaulieu, who had just a few months earlier completed junior high in Del Valle, Texas, daydreaming of Elvis Presley, found herself in his bedroom in Germany their first evening together. The unlikelihood of this scenario captured perfectly the circumstances, for theirs was a match based entirely in unreality. He was literally her fantasy come true, the successor to Mario Lanza in Priscilla’s childish fancy—Elvis Presley! Every teenage girl’s paradise found. She was his dream girl, the perfect child- woman Elvis had created in his mind. He told Rex Manseld the next day that he had “been looking for someone like that all of his life.” Priscilla, he explained to Rex, had the physical look he was attracted to “and she was young enough [for him] to raise her up to suit himself.” Mike Edwards characterized it as a “fantasy world, not a man and woman dying with love for each other.”

Priscilla has gone out of her way to deny Currie Grant’s claims, including his allegation that she slept with him to persuade him to introduce her to Elvis. She sued him in the 1980s and won, but there was reportedly a secret settlement that resulted in the judgment being voided and her paying Grant instead of the other way around. She claimed that she had a falling out with Grant while in Germany and that he lied when he said he was the one who drove them to the airport when Elvis left Germany in 1960s. However, photographic evidence later surfaced showing Grant driving them to the airport. So clearly, Priscilla is not always a reliable narrator.

Paul Beaulieu telephoned Graceland and ‘told Elvis he would put him under the damn jail if he didn’t marry Priscilla.

He was literally her fantasy come true […]. She was his dream girl

>Wow, thank you for all this, Kyoko, you’ve clearly done your research!

Perhaps you’d be interested in summing up your findings for a Newgon page on Elvis? If so, ask the Strategist / Jim and give it a try!

Adriana Placani, Anthropomorphism in AI: hype and fallacy, AI and Ethics (2024).

Anthropomorphism is also a kind of fallacy, and this is often overlooked. […] This can involve projecting human characteristics onto non-humans, such as: “My car is angry at me” or making an unwarranted inference about non-humans, such as “The robot is friendly because it waved at me”.

As a kind of fallacy, then, anthropomorphism involves a factually erroneous or unwarranted attribution of human characteristics to non-humans. Given this, when anthropomorphism becomes part of reasoning it leads to unsupported conclusions. The following will discuss some of these conclusions and how they occur within moral judgment. In this way, some of the negative ethical implications of anthropomorphizing AI will be exposed.

As PorcelainLark says when posting this study,

Curious that you never see people anthropomorphizing dildos.

Fascinating that you were involved in ILGA, Marco. Also fascinating that, in your words, you “behaved like a demon, a fanatic, led by hysteria and fear” when it came to pedos.

I have noticed in public forums, MAPs sometimes saying that they used to be Antis, raging against the pedos until they could no longer escape the realization that they too were one.

Do you think this is common / prevalent?

Hi Prue! I didn’t know about these other testimonials, but I’m not surprised at all. I think it works the same as with the internalized homophobia. And yes, I think it is very common. More common than what people suspect.

Sexual minorities have particularities that distinguish them from other communities (immigrants, disabled, women…). People who belong to a sexual minority can potentially hide their identity for the entire life, even to their partner! I mean, most immigrants could not effectively hide the fact that they are immigrants, can they? Less so to their partner! But a MAP can potentially hide the fact that they are a MAP. I think this creates particular dynamics, such as the one you mentioned.

Oh BTW, I will mention ILGA again in my next guest blog…

SCRAP fake Anglo apartheid age-gap crap!

Make non-Anglo Belgian, Delphine Lecompte MATRON Saint of AAMs, with Brussels statue and inscription “Adultophilia the Rational Cases”. Alongside their anti-authoritarian Pissing Boy & Squatting Girl.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=680884071721308&set=a.300182406458145

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=delphine+lecompte

Tom, I have a question. How do I read “pedophillia, the radical case”. Is there anyway I can reas it online? I am worried about getting a book like that phsycially shipped to my apartmwnt lol.

Hey Tom, taking the chance of this thread to reach out. I was thinking to create an audiobook adaptation of “The Radical Case.” I believe it could be a great way to make the book accessible to a wider audience. It would be really cool if your voice narrated it! I’ve experimented with generative AI using one of your publicly available interviews, and the results look promising so far. Of course, before publishing anything at all, I absolutely need your approval first. I’d really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this.

It’s an honor Tom. I sent you an email with a sample on Tuesday. I sent it to the same email address I used when we had a short email exchange in 2024 (I’m Marco – another Marco 🙂 ).

Newgon has a page w/ info about the book.

A PDF is also available via Annas Archive or Library Genesis.

E.g. https://annas-archive.org/md5/a3ae585c3f0c54c3eab7cdc09ea8c90f

It’s definitely essential reading, Koko, so I hope you’ll give it a go. I recommend listening to the book via a text-to-speech reader, which I personally found made it more impactful and emotional. But whatever you do, it’s a great book, and I’m not the only one who thinks so! Many academics, journalists, etc., have had good things to say.

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