Hi, this is Charles. I’ve been a naughty boy…

Like Chris Denning, about whom I wrote last time, Charles Napier was a very bright spark – witty, charming, the life and soul of the party.
Even the judge who sentenced him to thirteen years just before Christmas admitted that as a popular (not feared) young prep school teacher in the 1960s and 70s Charles for the most part charmed the pants off his mainly pre-teen pupils, whatever his principal accuser, cry-baby journalist Francis Whine (sorry, Wheen), might claim.
I will return to his accusations, taking them seriously along with much worse allegations that Charles appears to have made no attempt to deny. He told the court he had been “completely out of control” and was “desperately sorry” for his actions. To my mind, incidentally, these were significant expressions of remorse, but that didn’t stop the media quoting a police chief who asserted he had shown “no remorse”: damning opinion is apparently to be preferred over facts even when the latter are right there in plain view. Also, the judge appears to have given Charles no credit for his expressions of regret. All that surfaced publicly, so far as I can see, is that he would have got twenty years but for the fact that he pleaded guilty at the first opportunity.
For the moment, as with Chris Denning, I am going remember the better side of the man I knew. I met Charles when I joined the executive committee of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) in the mid-1970s. He joined the organisation at the start of its London operation, some months before me. Like his friend the late Peter Righton, who was also one of the first PIE committee members while working as Director of Education for the National Institute of Social Work, he has been presented in the media as an elite paedophile, and possibly part of a sinister ring of perverted high-ups.
Being a humble peasant myself, I never moved socially in such elevated circles, if they existed. But Charles undeniably has an upper class pedigree. He is a descendant of King Charles II of England, no less, via Lady Sarah Lennox, the king’s great-granddaughter, who married General Sir Charles James Napier. Gen. Napier commanded the British army in India in Victorian times and was famous in those days for conquering Sindh in what is now Pakistan. To this day the general’s statue is a towering presence in Trafalgar Square, London, occupying one of the four plinths. There have been leading figures in the family’s recent past and Charles has a half-brother, John Whittingdale, who is currently the Conservative MP for Maldon and Chelmsford East.
So Charles was posh. His racy sports car spoke of a penchant for swagger and swank, while his handsome mien and gracious manner suggested the hero of a bodice-ripping romantic novel. One could easily imagine him as a dashing officer, as his forbear the victor of Sindh must once have been, with all the young ladies swooning over him.
He was cultured, too, and clever. Not for nothing was he appointed to a senior role with the British Council in Cairo. But for his career being a “chequered” one, with several falls from grace over boys, he could well have become head of the entire outfit, and thus in effect the UK’s official cultural ambassador to the world. He was also a talented actor and singer in amateur productions. Above all, like Charles II, the Merry Monarch, he was lively and had a tremendous sense of fun: even Wheen admits that his young “sir”, Mr Napier, was a dazzling, exciting figure.
Not that his jolly japes were just for the kids. Back in the days when telephone answering machines were a novelty, subscribers had to make their own “please leave a message” tape recording. Most of us simply announced our name and number and invited callers to leave a message at the beep. Not Charles. His tape started something like this:

Hi, this is Charles. Sorry, I’m tied up at the moment, but if you’d like to leave a message…

In the background you could hear why he was tied up: there was a fearsome thrashing sound followed by yelps of ecstatic “pain” as Charles was punished by a stern dominatrix (one of his fellow thespians, no doubt) telling him he had been “a naughty boy”.
Well, plenty of people would say he got that right, wouldn’t they? The judge last week obviously thought he had been really, really naughty, in fact properly wicked.
Should we agree with him? It’s time to face the facts insofar as they can be gleaned from dubious mainstream press reports. Those accounts, it should be pointed out, were dominated by the perspective of just one individual, and I don’t mean the judge or a really traumatised victim. I refer instead to the man I have already dubbed the principal accuser, Francis Wheen, now deputy editor of the satirical magazine Private Eye, who has been banging on about Charles for decades. It was apparently Wheen’s testimony that led to the arrest in August last year of the man who had been his teacher at Copthorne School.
Way back in 1996 Wheen had a piece in the Guardian (28 August) headlined “School for Scandal”. He wrote:

Charles Napier was my gym master at prep school – and a very good gym master too, always willing to lend a hand (quite literally) as the boys practised their back-flips and head-stands.
From time to time he would invite his favourites into a small workshop next to the gym, where he plied us with Senior Service untipped and bottles of Mackeson before plunging his busy fingers down our shorts. Although I rejected his advances, I continued to help myself to beer ’n’ cigs from his secret depot when he wasn’t around. It never occurred to me to report him to the authorities. Why? Because he was the authorities.
Complaining about a teacher was as unthinkable as refusing to participate in a cross-country run. Anyway, no 11-year-old boy wishes to parade his sexual innocence: Napier warned me – and many others – that by refusing to cooperate we were merely demonstrating our immaturity.
“X lets me do it you know,” he said, naming a class-mate of mine. For weeks afterwards, X sneered at me for my squeamishness.

Several very similar rehashes of this account were published in later years, the latest being only this week in the Daily Mirror.
But there have been subtle changes, too, as time has passed. On BBC TV news on the evening after sentencing, Wheen spoke in scandalised tones about having been taken aback when Charles abruptly shoved a hand down the front of his gym shorts. Now I’m not about to accuse Wheen of lying, or even exaggerating. After all, this latest version presumably corresponds to the contents of his official witness statement to the police, so it’s not just a dashed off bit of journalistic hype.
But dashed off articles often have one great merit: the words spill out in a relatively unguarded way. Whereas his recent, written-with-the court-in-mind, pieces emphasise the sexual total innocence of the boys, his earlier, more casual work tells a rather different story. In another Guardian article in 2005, for instance, he admitted that at his prep school “there was a fair bit of leaping in and out of beds in dormitories, comparing notes, and general exploration”. He also mentions a physics master at Harrow, his later public school, who caught a couple of boys in sexual action and warned them “I don’t mind mutual masturbation, but I draw the line at buggery.” And that, he said, became accepted as a sort of unofficial school rule. Note the admission, too, in the 1996 article, that at least one boy sneered at Wheen’s “squeamishness”. How innocent does all this sound?
As it happens, I wrote to Wheen back in the nineties, challenging what I thought was his overly harsh view of Charles. This was based on my reading of the situation, which now appears to have been incorrect, that Charles had his hands down other boys’ shorts, if they were willing, but not Wheen’s because unlike other boys Wheen “rejected his advances”. In other words, it seemed the boys would have been aware of what went on in Charles’s “den” and were free to join in or not, as they chose.
In my letter, I said:

I am completely in favour of resources such as Childline and other means through which children can challenge bullying and abusive behaviour by adults, including parents. Having said that, I cannot help feeling you have been unfair to Charles, not so much in what you say he did but in the opprobrium you pour on him regardless of the fact that he actually seems to have done very little.

Wheen could have put me right on that, but chose not to. He responded to my brief initial approach with at least one short letter of his own, but I do not recall any further communication.
So, all in all, I remain sceptical that the molestation of which Wheen complains so bitterly had much to do with the force of Charles’s authority and the boys’ inability to refuse his wishes. I think it was more positive: no one was forced to spend extra-curricular time with Charles. They were drawn by the exciting allure of being with a popular – let’s not forget that word popular – teacher and getting up to all sorts of outrageous illicit things, including the cigarettes and booze.
It seems to me Wheen has been in a massive sulk all these years because he couldn’t be in the gang on his own terms. He said Charles called him a baby for not joining in, which made him feel “inadequate”. Gosh, how awful! That bruise to the delicate young Wheen’s ego must be worth a 13-year stretch on its own! But isn’t it time this grand-daddy of all cry-babies finally grew up and moved on after nearly half a century of wailing? Maybe, indeed, he should remember his school motto:
Pervincet Vivida Virtus: Lively manliness conquers all. (Albeit diplomatically re-translated as “All can be achieved by hard work” after they started taking girls!)
Oh, and another thing. As he is so keen on giving “historic” offenders hell, I presume he won’t complain if he is now nicked for stealing Charles’s property and sentenced to the maximum penalty: seven years for theft!
As for a far more serious complaint that Charles, “forced” a boy to “perform a sex act on him” I again find myself sceptical. That would not be the Charles I knew. He had a conscience and could not have brought himself to do anything in the face of a child’s reluctance. He might have gone so far as to exhort and cajole (bad enough in itself, to be sure), but not to threaten or force. He did not pester Wheen, after all, once the embryonic journalist had made his displeasure clear.
Yes, Charles was grossly irresponsible in his use of cigs and beer to “groom” his young charges. Yes, he knew that children could not in law give sexual consent however willing they were. And, yes, among the complainants there are those who say they have suffered depression and even suicidal feelings as a consequence of what Charles did.
Had he been caught and punished with a prison sentence for his prep school offences back in the 1970s he could have no complaint.
Is it right, though, that he and others should be judged today, after decades have passed and in a much more harshly punitive atmosphere? These days, it is said, there is a better understanding of the long-term harm caused by adult-child sexual encounters. So, if this is recent knowledge (not that we need accept its accuracy), how was Charles supposed to be aware of it in the 1970s? Should he and others be punished now with far greater severity than they would have decades ago on the basis that they didn’t have a reliable crystal ball in those days? Is that fair?
Ought there to be a statute of limitations?
Barrister Barbara Hewson recently argued in favour of such a statute.* To me the case seems unanswerable. Mores have changed so enormously in less than half a century that bringing Charles to “justice” this year was hardly any different from posthumously putting Thomas Jefferson on trial for keeping slaves, including his own personal child sex slave (Sally Hemings, aged 14). Should the author of the U.S. Declaration of Independence and that country’s third president be dishonoured and have his grave desecrated, as happened recently in the case of Jimmy Savile? It would make just as much sense, or as little, as the hounding of poor Charles.
Also, the further removed a trial is from the alleged offences, the more ills can be dubiously attributed to the original acts. One of Charles’s victims is said to have been suicidal “later in life”. But over the course of decades many of us suffer all sorts of misfortunes that might make us suicidal. We might have lost money disastrously on a business venture, been through an acrimonious divorce, be depressed about getting fat and diabetic. In such circumstances it is all too easy to claim that you wouldn’t have made a foolish investment, or married the wrong woman or fallen prey to overeating but for this thing that happened at school. It’s possible, to be sure, but many other factors may have been more determinative. You don’t – or shouldn’t – condemn a man to a 13-year prison sentence on such a nebulous basis.
But the frenzied blood-lust that has seized the media, the masses and even the courts in the wake of the Savile debacle will not be sated or satisfied by rational proposals for a statute of limitations. Raising the idea is like having pointed out mildly, in the midst of the French Revolution, that not all the aristocrats being trundled to the guillotine were necessarily very bad. The present mood of deluded indignation demands a universal “Off with their heads!” response, be the transgression great or small.
Perhaps, in the circumstances, Charles Napier should reflect philosophically on the fate of another of his ancestors – not Charles II but that king’s father, Charles I, who lost his head in the English Revolution. At least the good people of England are not literally going in for decapitation these days – not yet, anyway!
*The link is to Part II of an article titled “The cult of victimhood and the limits of law” in The Barrister. Part I is also relevant to historic cases.
STOP PRESS: THE ESTABLISHMENT FIGHTS BACK
The Queen’s New Year honours have just been announced and I see I have been overlooked yet again. Unbelievable! 🙂
What makes it even worse is a damehood for that horrible bitch Esther Rantzen. Sorry for the sexist language, ladies, but had she been a bloke the word would have been bastard or shit, which is hardly an improvement. Not only did she refuse to shake hands with me in the BBC reception room as we waited to go on air for the TV discussion show After Dark about a decade ago, she also set her Rottweiler (bitch) friend “June” on me – a screaming “survivor” and ex-prostitute whom I found most discombobulating. She was so loud and in-yer-face aggressive it was hard to think or talk straight. It took all the diplomacy I could muster just to ward off the imminent threat of June giving me a Glasgow kiss. As that city happened to be her home town and she was built like a battle tank I fancy she’d have been good at it.
The Guardian today said this latest honours list was intended “to focus on those who help vulnerable children”. Hence the damehoods for ChildLine founder Rantzen and also for Joyce Plotnikoff, “who has revolutionised the way courts treat child witnesses”. And there was a CBE for Kate Lampard, “the independent overseer of the NHS investigation into Jimmy Savile”.
Much more interesting, though, was a damehood for Fiona Woolf, who was forced to resign from the government’s overarching child abuse inquiry recently. Victims’ groups had protested that she was an unsuitable chair because of her links with Tory peer Leon Brittan, a friend and neighbour, whose role as home secretary in dealing with allegations of child abuse in the 1980s “is likely to be scrutinised”, as the Guardian inscrutably put it.
It may be remembered that yet another dame, Lady Elizabeth Butler-Sloss, was the first person appointed to head the ill-fated abuse enquiry and, like Woolf afterwards, was shown the door by the victims’ lobby. Butler-Sloss was forced to stand down because her late brother Sir Michael Havers had been attorney general in the 1980s and his actions would have been subject to investigation by the inquiry.
Now, in a sign of an establishment fight-back matching the new honour for Woolf, and even topping it, Butler-Sloss has gone public with some very pointed remarks about the danger of handing over too much control to the victims.
She has said she fears the government will never be able to find an experienced figure to run the abuse investigation, but that victims should not think they can do it.
Speaking on BBC Radio 4 today she said for victims to be deciding who should be the person chairing the inquiry “creates real problems”.
She said:

You are going to need someone who knows how to run things and if you get someone with an obscure background with no background of establishment, they will find it very difficult and may not be able to produce the goods.

She agreed that the normal processes of sifting of evidence, and neutrality between accuser and accused, might go by the board if the victims were allowed to dominate.
Quite so, your ladyship!

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thoughtsofadeviantdissident

I didn’t realise that Esther Rancid had it in for you!

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Bloom

Perhaps off topic, perhaps not, but I’ve been reading The Dialectic of Sex: the case for feminist revolution by Shulamith Firestone.
Chapter four, Down with childhood begins…

Women and children are always mentioned in the same breath (‘Women and childeren to the forts!’). The special tie women have with children is recognized by everyone. I submit, however, that the nature of this bond is no more than shared oppression. And that moreover this oppression is intertwined and mutually reinforcing in such complex ways that we will be unable to speak of the liberation of women without also discussing the liberation of children, and ? vice versa.

Among others in her book, Firestone quotes Wilhelm Reich and A S Neill and I think she makes some important arguments.

A.

A rare, slightly cheering story: the judge was pretty hard on this lad but at least she did not send him to prison: http://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/crime/man-who-had-sex-with-12-year-old-is-spared-jail-1-6451502
Some welcome humour: http://newsthump.com/2015/01/05/duke-of-york-strenuously-denies-he-had-ten-thousand-men/

Jack Summer

Sounds like a girl who was in charge of her sexuality and sought out and got what she wanted. Which is awesome. As a parent I’d only make sure she was using protection. Sex three times in one night? Sounds like a hell of a time if anything.
Rehabilitation program eh? Brainwash him into thinking he imagined the consent, which will likely happen to the girl too. Brainwash her into thinking she was tricked, not that she actually like and enjoyed sex.
What a world. Also, once again I appreciate my being a non that much more. I don’t need to worry about prudes legally enforcing their views on me or my partners.

stephen6000

While we’re on the subject of ‘rehabilitation’, I’m currently trying to compile a series of ‘horror stories’ involving experiences of minor attracted people interacting with the mental health profession, particularly in a British context. If you have a story to share, please let me know. Complete anonymity guaranteed. Tom will vouch for me. My E-mail address is minormattersmail@gmail.com

Jack Summer

That does sound like it would be invaluable, especially, at this point and time, the accounts from child “victims”. However I have nothing to offer but anecdote I have read on the internet. I have a socially acceptable sexual attraction and I do not know anyone in real life who is attracted to children or young teens. Sorry.

A.

Yes, the only thing I’d be worried about in that situation would be making sure she had a good supply of inside (female-controlled) condoms and could use them properly.
In view of the boy’s mother’s concern over his friendships with younger kids, which suggests that he may be a GL, I wonder if this sort of thing isn’t often a ‘starter relationship’ for young GLs. In Lautmann’s Attraction to Children, which I’m always telling everyone to read, three of the roughly twenty GLs interviewed said that when they were eighteen, they had intercourse with a girl of twelve, but that in their subsequent relationships with little girls they had not had intercourse. One of the girls mentioned was dying of a terminal illness. In the little bit of life that remained to her, she wanted, and got, caresses and intercourse with the older boy in question. This went on until she died: she was then fourteen and he twenty. What would the Make-a-Wish Foundation make of that, I wonder!
(Thoughts with TOC following the murders of his fellow journalists.)

gantier99

The thing that strikes me reading the article again (about the 12 yo girl, in Milton Keynes) is how the fact they’d only recently met is seen as a mitigating circumstance. Normally, getting to know each other properly before sex might be considered good manners! Such is the power of the word “grooming” to influence thinking.

Jack Summer

I see a problem, that doesn’t have to do with consensual sexual touching. Raising kids to obey authority blindly. This factor is pretty much what causes most of the problems that society blames on sexual contact itself. Children are pretty notorious for letting how they feel about something known. Even when raised to obey adult authority. Walk by the parenting section in a Barnes and Noble. Parents want to get rid of the factor that let’s kid’s defend themselves from all kinds of unwanted attention or interactions. The problem is giving them the freedom to say no comes with giving them the freedom to say yes. One can’t exist without the other. They cannot exist when you raise a child to obey adults because they are adults.
Also note that most child lover’s will make it clear to the child that the child lover is not like other adults and the child is free to agree or disagree to them.

mr p

The problem is giving them the freedom to say no comes with giving them the freedom to say yes. One can’t exist without the other: But it dose exist without the other; with devastating consequences: An ever increasing population of sex-offenders incarcerated,which has the analogy of the pink-triangle!

Jack Summer

Not only innocents being imprisoned for nothing, but children being rung through court systems and therapy for nothing, causing immeasurable damage. A sad state of affairs for adults and children.

Dissident

I don’t believe I’m straying far off-topic by mentioning that a similar surfeit of claims are now besieging the beloved American comedian and TV star Bill Cosby. The majority involve young women who were not underage at the time of the alleged incidents, but at least one of them was only 15 at the time the incident supposedly occurred, so I’m honestly surprised that the dreaded “P” word hasn’t been thrown at Cosby yet.
I can’t say with any degree of certainty that Cosby is innocent of every claim thrown at him, because at least one was made soon after the incident is alleged to have occurred, in the 1970s. That may provide some validity to at least some claims of his reported M.O. for giving drugged drinks to young women he had befriended and/or taken under his professional tutelage to gain their compliance in his sexual advances. It’s very true, as one friend of mine who defends Cosby has said, that “Cos”‘s great celebrity status makes him perfectly capable of acquiring willing sexual partners from many young women, even at his advancing age. However, that also doesn’t rule out that he may nevertheless have some type of compulsive fetish with acquiring non-consensual complicity from young women, and his celebrity status gives him an egotistical sense of entitlement.
But over the past decade, more and more women have come out of the proverbial woodwork to make claims of historic sexual abuse from Cosby. And with the lucrative financial aspect and ego-driven desire to “tear down” celebrities and become media darlings in the process that is now pervading the Western press, I’m forced to wonder if Cosby is truly guilty of all, or the majority, of these claims.
In truth, I simply don’t know, as so many factors and possibilities exist, and I have yet to personally analyze Cosby’s situation in any degree of depth. Perhaps that is the problem with this tendency for mass historic accusations against beloved (or formerly beloved) celebrities: It invariably causes the instances of genuine abuse undoubtedly committed from time to time by individuals in a position of privilege to be called into question. Too many false allegations hurt the testimony and validity of the genuine victims who honesty deserve justice for what was done to them.

James

“the lucrative financial aspect”
I wasn’t aware that there was money to be had in this case. Can you elaborate?

Dissident

There has been an ongoing trend in the West of historic sexual assault victims, likely both real and imagined, who have attempted to make a financial killing by taking both individuals and organizations (e.g., the Catholic Church) to civil court and suing them. Some of them have tried suing individuals simply for having possession of pics taken of them by a totally unconnected party when they were underage. As expected, lawyers seeking to encourage individuals to sue for these reasons have become yet another part of the lucrative sex abuse industry.
A very recent general example that got a lot of press in America is this:
http://www.people.com/article/sex-offender-lottery-sued-by-alleged-victims
You will note that in America, there is no statute of limitations for accusations of sexual assault for any alleged victim under the age of 16, which is largely the matter which the Barrister took up in the 2-part article Tom mentioned and and linked to in this blog entry.
Regarding Cosby in particular, check out this:
http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/10/bill-cosby-sex-assault-accuser-tamara-green-defamation-lawsuit/
The alleged victim from the early ’70s, Tamara Good, is trying to get around the statute of limitations (as she was young, though not underage, when the incident allegedly occurred) by suing Cosby for defamation of character by denying via his publicist that he sexually assaulted her.

James

I’m aware that there’s money to be had when the complainant is underage but was under the impression that this was impossible for complainants who were adults at the time of the incident. However, after seeing a defamation lawsuit for claiming not to be a rapist I have no idea WTF is wrong with this world….
I wonder if the publicisation of rape allegations by various feminist groups which later turn out to be false has a bit of a Cowpox of Doubt effect which makes people less likely to take other accusations of rape seriously. I expect that such an effect, if it exists, would be particularly noticeable in the MAP community where people are painfully aware of BS statutory rape cases. It’d be interesting to poll BC & GC to see whether the average response there to, for example, the Cosby debacle is more skeptical than the population-wide average. (Obvious disclaimer is obvious: this is not meant as a criticism of MAPs.)
BTW: section II of this post argues that shady accusations may build up more momentum in the feminist movement because they are shady. This isn’t because people like lying but because controversy spreads.

Ethanic

Ha ha, “The Cowpox of Doubt” – never let your ideas crystallise!
When I was growing up I would never allow myself to feel !00% sure about my thoughts. Then I met someone who instilled in me the notion of a much bigger ego than I had heretofore.
Most likely not a good outcome.
Now I’m trying to revive, within, universal doubt.

A.

I totally agree with your last paragraph.
I can hardly keep track of the historic allegations these days…there’s Prince Andrew, and then there’s this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11323146/Thatcher-confidant-raped-boy-and-police-covered-crime-up.html . That last one does strike me as a rather convincing story, but who knows.

A.

Erm, I mean the first bit strikes me as quite convincing, this one: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11323817/Westminster-paedophile-ring-I-allowed-my-son-to-go-with-him.-You-trusted-people-more-in-those-days.html . If I recall correctly, Morrison was rumoured to have been asked not to stand for re-election after having been caught in a public toilet with a fifteen-year-old boy in around 1990. And if that’s true, well, yes, if he had been an average Joe he’d probably have been prosecuted.
The other story, about an eight-year-old boy allegedly being murdered by the ‘Westminster paedophile ring’ is, with all sympathy for his grieving father, clearly rubbish.

mr p
A.

Interesting article. Thanks

Linca

Tom,
I take Charles’ confession of being out of control with a grain of salt. It is well established that innocent people confess to crimes they did not commit. Ref: A spokesman for “The Innocents Project” I heard a couple of years ago in a State of Oklahoma Senate Hearing.
Here is an article on the Neo-Victorian times we are living in:
4 Ways Neo-Victorianism Reared Its Ugly Head in 2014
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/30/neo-victorianism-in-2014?n_play=54a37bc1e4b0db2328cfded6
Linca

A.

I agree, as well, with what you say about the difficulty of attributing harm after the passage of many years. When ‘pop mogul’ Jonathan King got a seven-year sentence in 2001 for historic sex crimes against fourteen- and fifteen-year-old boys (http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/nov/21/childprotection.society), Alan Bennett, author of The History Boys among much else, summed up the situation pithily: “Now a succession of sad middle-aged men are encouraged to blame their failure in life on these ancient wanks, a service for which the state will reward them far more munificently than King ever did.” Bennett, by the way, has also written that when he was ten his legs were felt up by a Strange Man in a cinema, and that though he was frightened and ran away, he does not feel he sustained any damage — or if he did, it was because of his father’s angry dismissal of the incident.
A couple of years ago violinist Frances Andrade killed herself during the trial of Michael Brewer, her former teacher at the prestigious Chetham’s School of Music, for historic sex offences against her when she was fourteen and fifteen. The story: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/08/michael-brewer-victim-teacher-abuser The Guardian has a great deal else on her case: search her name. Brewer got six years.
It seems quite cold-blooded and presumptuous to analyse somebody’s life based on newspaper articles when they’ve died in such a tragic way, but I’m going to try and do it nonetheless. It seems that Andrade’s inborn personality traits made her vulnerable. So did her early life circumstances: she was adopted, and in later life sought out her birthmother and built a relationship with her; she didn’t get along well with her adoptive mother; she was close to her adoptive father, and he died when she was thirteen. She was sexually abused by an uncle starting when she was eight. She then spent her adolescence in the intensely competitive atmosphere of a top-flight music boarding school. Before she developed a relationship with Brewer, she had already started self-harming and had taken a paracetamol overdose. In her relationship with Brewer, she did not at the time see herself as a victim. As an adult, she probably realised that some of his behaviour, such as telling her how special and irresistible she was and that he’d leave his wife when the time was right, had been manipulative, and that she’d only fallen for it because she was so young and vulnerable at the time. Still, she didn’t report Brewer to the police: the mother of one of her violin students did that, and Andrade was furious about it. She dreaded having to testify, and started taking antidepressants. Then a (female) barrister called her a liar at the trial and she thought nobody believed her, so she committed suicide. The situation is so complex, with so many factors contributing to the sad outcome, that it is impossible to put blame squarely on the shoulders of Brewer or the uncle.

peterhoo

Both this post and the last one about Chris Denning are really well written Tom. I have also reflected on what the historic sex charge says about our society and culture. In my piece I limit myself to the case of Chris Denning. I also link your insights and accounts with what I argue. (http://takearisknz.wordpress.com)

feinmann0

“These questions, like questions put at trials generally, left the essence of the matter aside, shut out the possibility of that essence’s being revealed, and were designed only to form a channel through which the judges wished the answers of the accused to flow so as to lead to the desired result, namely a conviction. As soon as Pierre began to say anything that did not fit in with that aim, the channel was removed and the water could flow to waste. Pierre felt, moreover, what the accused always feel at their trial, perplexity as to why these questions were put to him. He had a feeling that it was only out of condescension or a kind of civility that this device of placing a channel was employed. He knew he was in these men’s power, that only by force had they brought him there, that force alone gave them the right to demand answers to their questions, and that the sole object of that assembly was to inculpate him. And so, as they had the power and wish to inculpate him, this expedient of an inquiry and trial seemed unnecessary. It was evident that any answer would lead to conviction.” (War and Peace, Leo Tolstoy).
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

Linca

feinmann0,
Very Good!!
Linca

A.

Happy New Year, all.
So this is a descendant of Mr Witty and Probably Apocryphal Telegram “Peccavi” (= I have sinned = I have Sindh).
I would like to put a word in here for two people whom I’ve never met, but whose work I admire, and who were likewise convicted of historic offences.
One is the distinguished children’s author William Mayne. Having read his quartet of choir school novels, which draw on his time as a chorister at Canterbury Cathedral, I figured he was a BL, but nope: girls 8-16 were his bag, apparently. The story: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/may/05/books.booksforchildrenandteenagers . There were a couple of thoughtful and humane responses to Mayne’s conviction: this by Catherine Bennett http://www.theguardian.com/books/2004/may/27/childprotection.uk and a comment by poet and theologian Rowan Williams, then Archbishop of Canterbury, that he would still recommend Mayne’s books, in particular A Game of Dark, which Williams read as a child. Williams said, “Yes, it would colour me if I read it now, knowing what has happened. Yet a writer is not the sum of his activities. We would be in trouble with a lot of authors if their lives were what we judged.” Mayne died in 2010. A letter to the Guardian from someone who knew him: http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2010/apr/30/william-mayne-obituary-letter
The other is the distinguished musician Robert King, who started out as a chorister at St John’s College, Cambridge. By all accounts a charismatic and energetic fellow, he founded the internationally renowned King’s Consort. One of his specialisms is period performance of Baroque music, which means, among other things, using boys’ voices for the high singing parts. He has recorded Bach’s Mass in B Minor with the Tölzer Knabenchor and the complete sacred music of Purcell (that’s a lot of music) with a specially handpicked group of some of Britain’s best boy choristers, plus a few adult female singers to take some of the trickier solos. And he’s conducted and recorded a whole heck of a lot else with a wide variety of singers and instrumentalists, as well as editing music and writing about it. The guy is a big cheese. In 2007 he was convicted of sexually abusing five boys aged 12-16. Here’s the story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-453494/Da-Vinci-Code-conductor-molested-boys-plying-drink.html King apparently said the alcohol claim was rubbish, that the boy in question couldn’t possibly have consumed the amount of alcohol he said King had given him. He maintained, in fact, that everything was made up, calling his accusers liars and looneys. He was given a sentence of three years and nine months and was placed on the sex offenders register, but wasn’t barred from working with children because the judge considered that he’d turned over a new leaf, having married — his wife is sixteen or seventeen years younger than him — and fathered a son. He has since resumed his career, had another kid and taken up farming a flock of rare sheep.
I was given pause, I must say, by Mayne’s reported comment to a young girl (if he actually said it, and if it wasn’t taken completely out of context) that sexual touching, or whatever it was, was what she wanted, what young girls want and need. It put me in mind of the Caldicott School documentary, in which one of the interview subjects said that when he was molested at age eleven, the young man touching him said that he, the boy, would get to like it. I thought, Yeah, OK, buddy, but how about asking the kid what he likes, rather than telling him? That’s just basic decency and common sense. Napier has apparently said “I was a very young man, I was completely out of control and completely out of order, putting it about everywhere.” He’ll hardly have been be the first young man, or young woman, in such a state, but in his case the other people involved were only 8-13 years old, and clearly vulnerable to some degree due to their age. And yet, one of the supposed victims has said, anonymously, that Napier was a “great teacher”, that it’s “sad it has come to this”, and that “I don’t feel that this really affected me that badly, I don’t consider myself a victim, but others were affected really badly.” And Napier’s sentence is outrageously long, far longer than either Mayne’s or King’s. This is a miserably cruel way to treat him. It’s not as though he’s Eichmann or Pinochet, for God’s sake.
This is as good a time as any to post this article by Anna March: http://www.salon.com/2013/03/22/my_bad_sex_wasnt_rape/ . I normally have reservations about articles of this type by women, my reaction ranging from “well, yes, but..” to “oh hell no”, but not here. I agree with every last word. It’s well worth a careful read.

A.

Good point. Strike the “humane” for Bennett and let it stand for Williams. I must confess that, not being a journalistic type myself, I have a silly habit of failing to note columnists’ names, so while I must have read other stuff by Bennett, I can’t at the moment recall any. I shall investigate further. Of course the corruption talk is nonsense; if every book in which children have bad relationships with adults and keep secrets from them were corrupting, we’d have to ban Harry Potter, for a start. The tone of this part of Bennett’s article reminds me of something Jon Barnes wrote in the Times Literary Supplement when Forrest Reid’s novel The Garden God was given a nice new edition. Reid, he said, was “the kind of man who liked to make friends with other people’s children”. Heaven forbid!
Do you think that Napier’s thirteen-year sentence, as opposed to two and a half years for Mayne and three years nine months for King, was due solely to his PIE involvement, or do you think that even over this short period there has been a trend towards more severe sentencing?

A.

Thanks for clearing up my misconception about PIE membership as an aggravating factor. I’m pretty foggy on the details of how sentencing actually works — but come to think of it, I remember that your 2002 sentence was overturned because the judge was held to have been influenced by your activism.
I was forgetting Teret. He wasn’t in a position of trust, so the sentence is extremely savage. I’ve just read this: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/05/ray-teret-abuse-affected-life-victim-cathy-hymas . Reading between the lines, it seems that (if Hymas is being truthful) Teret’s behaviour was pretty bad — “sometimes she told him no, but he just laughed” ; “If something hurt he’d say ‘No it doesn’t, you love it’ ” — but that the young Hymas participated enough for Teret to believe, given the climate of the times, that he was not raping her.
So it’s all down to the hysteria whipped up over the Savile case…How extremely depressing, given that according to Anna Raccoon’s detailed analysis, Savile did almost none of the things he’s been accused of.

gantier99

Happy new year from me too!
A load of issues are brought up here that I’d like to comment on, briefly, as real life beckons.
Period of limitation: In my country of residence a time limit is set according to the severity of the crime (in terms of maximum prison sentence). So, the crimes mentioned here would be “written off” after 10 years (crimes up to maximum 8 years prison term) or 15 years (crimes over maximum 8 years prison sentence but less than life-imprisonment). In addition, where the victim is under 18 years, the clock starts ticking on the victim’s 18th birthday. All this kind of feels reasonable. Historic crimes are judged according to the law applying at the time of the crime which also feels fair.
Changing values: I’m reminded by South Africa after the fall of apartheid. How do you deal with past behaviour that has suddenly fallen right off the scale of acceptability? A “Truth and Reconciliation Commission” is what they chose in an effort to prevent society falling apart. Those more familiar with South Africa will be better able to say whether SA post-apartheid is comparable in any way to UK post-Savile.
PIE: I have sometimes wondered whether the liberal ideas from that time in combination with the power structures in place in the UK was a too-dangerous mix. It may not be a coincidence that many of the happy tales we sometimes refer to from the seventies and eighties come not from the UK but from Denmark and Holland, countries where there is a more relaxed attitude to authority, sex education and perhaps life in general. Children are more able to defend themselves against unwelcome attention if they don’t think of their teachers (or any adult) as all powerful.
Prep boarding schools: As a parent I find the idea of sending children to boarding school (especially at such a young age) quite ridiculous. This is what should have been on trial just as much as Charles Napier. But it’s easier to blame an individual than a system. And where were the other teachers, the parents, the female house-staff? It really does feel like Charles Napier, for all his faults, is being made the scapegoat for an education system crying for overhaul.
Victim-culture: Just found this on message at napac.org
Why I now can’t look my school friends from 30 years ago in the eye: Because at age 15 I sneered at them, thinking I was superior, arriving at school in my boyfriend’s Golf GTI, when they had spotty 16 year old boyfriends with a bike. Because I went to all the concerts and gigs they couldn’t afford to go to. Because I got taken out for posh meals every weekend at the best restaurants in Liverpool. Because at 15 I was being groomed by a 25 year old man and didn’t even realize it. Because the man who was grooming me was a church youth group leader. Because I was being used for sex by a man who couldn’t make a relationship with someone his own age or equal. Because now I’m a 40 year old woman who thinks she should have known better and feels pretty stupid
I mean REALLY! The man might have liked you for God’s sake!
Let’s hope 2015 will be a year of reconciliation and healing. As a society we don’t need to go further down the self-destruct route.

gantier99

And btw thanks for the links to the Barbara Hewson blog parts 1 and 2. Well worth reading.

A.

“…couldn’t make a relationship with someone his age or equal.” There is an ideal of strict equality in relationships these days, and there are a lot of good points about that. It’s much better than the ideal of semi-paternal heterosexual adult love that seems to have obtained before. But the ideal has become too rigid, failing to leave room for happy relationships from which each partner benefits in a different way. One of Titus Rivas’s interview subjects discusses this here: https://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/rivas_howard_miller.htm

gantier99

But the ideal has become too rigid, failing to leave room for happy relationships from which each partner benefits in a different way.
Almost as if we have collectively decided that as we don’t seem to be very good at empathy and respect then we’d better just stick to equal 🙂

mr p

He may have not known the term “grooming” himself; at the time.
From what I read,The P.I.E. were fighting over the term,against feminist groups,not the rare few that were pro-minor attraction!
Happy new year to you all

gantier99

Well at least the OED lets us be “friendly”. Grooming is one of those awful words that are as much weapon as concept isn’t it? If you’re a paedo you can hardly look at a child let alone say good morning without being accused of grooming. What fun it would be to reclaim this word, as in “Let’s go for a hike we need to get some more grooming in….” Hmmm Urban Dictionary might be a good place to start.

mr p

I’m skint: The hidden costs of grooming!

gantier99

The best things in life are free…..

mr p

I stand corrected: I must have misquoted you somewhere along the line; What an abuse of a term mainly associated with horses!

James

“Because I was being used for sex by a man who couldn’t make a relationship with someone his own age or equal.”
This is just so baffling. Is it impossible that this relationship happened not because he couldn’t form a relationship with someone older but because he didn’t want one? Is it also impossible that he had feelings for you anywhere other than his testicles? Or that it isn’t absolutely terrible since you wanted and enjoyed it? I can’t even….
BTW: Welcome back, Gantier! 🙂

gantier99

This is just so baffling.
I know! I was staggered to find it there among more reasonable stories of abuse. But of course, to be fair, we don’t know the full story. Anyway, there’s a victim snowball rolling in the UK (wet snow, the kind that gets bigger as it rolls not smaller, sorry, I’ve been in the arctic too long). It might collapse under it’s own weight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30647646 (see also Tom’s stop press and the links to Barbara Hewson “cult of victimhood”)
BTW: Welcome back, Gantier!
Thanks, never far away, sometimes just need to lurk in a cave a while 🙂

Jack Summer

The quote you posted, about the 15 year old and the 25 year old. Absolutely ridiculous. That is a huge problem with intergenerational relationships, people grow to find them as inherently abusive, this is what they are told. Especially for females, where they are taught to withhold sex. She is more upset that she didn’t live up to social expectations, but doesn’t realize it. Even if the guy did it just for the sex, she clearly was fine with it, and why shouldn’t she be? She got all those benefits just by putting out. It’s just that she has been told by other adults, that that was bad because of her age. If she did the same at 25 with a 75 year old, people would say “get that money girl” but since she was 15 she was only supposed to screw guys her age, who are just as likely to use her just for sex but provide her with much less benefit, but that would be okay?
It’s all hypocritical
This is also ignoring whether she enjoyed the sex or not. My post is assuming she got no enjoyment out of the sexual contact. Which she very well may have loved but now ignores that.

mr p

but since she was 15 she was only supposed to screw guys her age, who are just as likely to use her just for sex but provide her with much less benefit, but that would be okay?
Good point….I have mentioned before that when I was 21, I had a 16yo girlfriend(asked her out,on her16th birthday; just incase the child salvationists are reading) there’s only a years difference between the relationship I had,and the one above.We had a chat in the pub,about two tears later;she was happy to see me, I.e, no ill-will! though If she did regret her time with me;I’d be pretty hurt,cos I had real feelings for her–even to the point of jealousy–which was part of the reason it finished I recall.

A.

I don’t know that the reaction to a 25-year-old with a 75-year-old would be quite as blithe as that. A lot of people take the ‘half your age plus seven’ rule very seriously and consider anything that falls outside of those limits ‘sketchy’ and, yes, potentially manipulative.

gantier99

Hi A.
Where does that half your age plus seven “rule” come from? Has it been around for long? Does it apply over cultural boundaries? I’ve not heard of it myself but that may be because I tend to social lock-down 🙂

gantier99

Interesting that the rule used to be applied to find the ideal age of a bride, not the limit of social acceptability…
The rule crumbles a little at the edges though. If you considered the ideal age of your bride to be 10 then you’d have to be 10 minus 7 is 3, twice 3 is 6. Damn!

James

Actually, Gantier, the proper way the inverse the rule to find a maximum age for yourself (something I’ve had more occasion to do than find a minimum age) is to double your age and subtract 14. 2x-14 is the inverse function of (x/2)+7. However, these functions fail to return anything meaningful if you’re under 14 (your upper limit will be below your age and your lower limit will be above it). The justification I’ve heard is that people under 14 shouldn’t be dating. Screw that!

gantier99

Thankyou James, I had a feeling you’d put me right on this 🙂

mr p

That’s their problem:-)

Bloom

I’m also a fan of William Mayne’s writing and I took an interest in the proceedings of his trial. I don’t have access to the links, but I recall some of his child friends were not only outspoken in their support for him but were surprisingly open about private hijinks. They certainly asserted that he was unconventional, playful and physically affectionate, and that they loved this about him.
I think these reports disappeared from the web fairly shortly after publication, but hopefully I have copies.
…Echoes of the persecution of Graham Ovenden.

A.

I’d very much like to see some excerpts from the copies if you find them.

mr p

Is it right, though, that he and others should be judged today, after decades have passed and in a much more harshly punitive atmosphere?
But with that logic,do you think sex offenders should be punished more harshly today?
Selfish maybe; Even if he didn’t believe in all the modern-day pseudoscience!
But you know what they say,the only happy pedo is an offending pedo,No offence,Or should that be no Ofenc!
anyway happy New year TOC….And with gritted teeth,the Virtuous types LOL!

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