Can animals consent?

So Germany is to ban “bestiality” under animal welfare law, according to yesterday’s Guardian.

Like young children, animals cannot give “informed consent”. Interesting, then, that Peter Singer, pioneering philosopher of animal rights, has not condemned sex with animals.

Some years ago he reviewed a book on the subject. Among other interesting points, he said this:

…sex with animals does not always involve cruelty. Who has not been at a social occasion disrupted by the household dog gripping the legs of a visitor and vigorously rubbing its penis against them? The host usually discourages such activities, but in private not everyone objects to being used by her or his dog in this way, and occasionally mutually satisfying activities may develop.

I recommend reading his entire piece:

The German ban appears to be an attempt to deflect attention away from real animal rights issues:

Agriculture minister Ilse Aigner was said to have introduced the amendment to appease animal rights campaigners angry that more is not being done to tackle perceived animal rights abuses in the agricultural industry. Campaigners wants bans on cutting off piglets’ tails, and the castration of piglets and branding of horses without anaesthesia. (from Guardian report)

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Jonathan Hughes

Consent question should not even be brought up. God does not want us to police oneanother. Jesus did not give us that example. Bulls have an electric rod put up their butt in artificial insemination industry without consent as people say. People against the zoosexuals need button their lips.

omnipolitics16

Oh man zoophilia & bestiality, this topic is quite weird, not in my interest, and quite disturbing in my opinion. I am a defender of pedophilia and affairs with children by adults & other children but animals? It is a huge grey area for me objectively, but relatively i find it odd & disturbing. (Not disgusting to an extreme point, but odd.)

artiewhitefox

People Are not making themselves to be good going after the zoosexual. That pushes the zoosexual closer to the animals that give them peace. They are not able to find it with their own species.

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thoughtsofadeviantdissident

What about the Japanese monkey that tried to mate with a deer in the last week?

Stephen

I’m a zoophile myself, just to get that out of the way. I have to ask, why do people seem to think animals can’t consent? I would lay out the argument myself, but I figure a link to another blog is easier. Have an objective read if you’re interested. http://zoopoint.blogspot.com.au/2012/05/animals-can-consent.html?m=1&zx=e11bb6bc1f928bc8

Thoughts of a Deviant Dissident

I’m not just a MAP (specifically a GL), but also a zoosexual too and have been for as long as I’ve been A MAP.
Consent is a thorny question in the zoosexual community, but I can tell you that if any animal doesn’t want you, it’s not shy in showing you so! If you really love your animal partner, then you’ll listen to what they are telling you, non verbally of course. You’ll then treat them with respect and let them initiate the coupling, which is possible! ??

michaelkennedylozano

I wouldn’t readily site the blog of a man who honestly believes animals can give consent, but not children. People like that aren’t friends to our kind; they’ll just tread all over us in an effort to be accepted.

omnipolitics16

I have noticed that, one of my acquaintances down at VOA critiqued his critique on the pedophilia & zoophilia post. (Sadly can’t paste a link because my VOA account is gone.)

omnipolitics16

Forgot my password, I go with different passwords since I gained some notoriety not to long ago, it is a safety precaution for me.

stephen6000

Yes, it figures, doesn’t it? Animal rights campaigners want something done and there might be a few votes in it, so let’s hit the zoophiles! Everyone knows they’re the baddies in this. Never mind the meat industry. (I speak as someone who is TRYING to be a vegetarian, by the way!)

omnipolitics16

You could ask a legitimate vegetarian, like me 😉

artiewhitefox

zoos say by not going away, but haters are deaf and blind. People don’t know Jesus. He would not raise his hand saying. Animal’s cannot talk therefore cannot consent. Arrest him – her. His enemies thought in that way.. Jesus would mind his own business.

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