ATSA agonising gives grounds for hope

Angst and turmoil within the ranks of the Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers (ATSA) has been brought to Heretic TOC’s notice this week thanks to a leak from internal discussions.
I did not personally encounter the Deep Throat of this episode in a dimly lit underground car park and do not know his identity (or hers); but the information is highly credible and was transmitted to me indirectly by a source I will be happy to credit later for this scoop, providing no one is going to be compromised.
The leak, from a thread on the ATSA listserve, sees David Prescott, a former president of the association, debating a couple of weeks ago with Steven Sawyer, a psychotherapist in private practice, and Jon Brandt, director of a home for teenage boys on probation.
Prescott had pointed out that there is an ongoing class-action lawsuit regarding Minnesota’s civil commitment program for sexual offenders (MSOP), contesting whether the program is constitutional. He noted that the main local newspaper, the Minneapolis Star Tribune, had described the current state of affairs as an injustice.
Prescott’s view, which did not surprise me as I know him from Sexnet, was broadly liberal. Having himself worked briefly in the Minnesota program, as he declared in this listserve exchange, he had come to accept that even if it might be possible to justify civil commitment for some offenders, Minnesota’s record was highly dubious. The program had been in existence for 20 years. Prisoners were supposed to be released after successful treatment, but after all those years, and with over 700 prisoners going through the program, only one person had ever been released for a significant length of time.
He asked:
“Where do our ethical and moral obligations begin and end? Given the prime directive of the helping professions, ‘First, do no harm,’ this seems a worthwhile question. Much of the media accounts have focused on the appalling lack of courage and fortitude of state lawmakers and officials in addressing MSOP and its legal context. In fact, this has been going on years.
“How long does one have to work in a dysfunctional system before one becomes a de facto collaborator with it? … At what point are we causing harm to our clients through our involvement? Many of us have heard clients say, ‘If you really want to help me, Doc, get me out of here.’ How many have to say this before they have a compelling point?”
Sawyer’s response was defensive, along the lines “We’re not to blame, it’s the courts.” He said they were the ones making the decision to impose civil commitment on an offender, and also when to release that person. The clinicians just provide treatment. So he thought criticising them was “a bit harsh and unfair to well intentioned, professional, and talented people”. They could not be held responsible for what was outside their control.
Prescott took him to task for passing the buck, saying it is “an abdication of our professional responsibilities” just to blame the system.
Brandt agreed, pointing out that earlier this year a federal judge had declared MSOP to be a “clearly broken” system. Brandt went further, too, saying civil commitment in general was an ethical minefield for every professional who is party to it, and indeed all therapy with incarcerated offenders, whether in civil commitment or serving an ordinary prison sentence, involved an ethically problematic “dual relationship”. He was referring to the conflict of roles inherent in trying to serve the client and the state simultaneously. Increasingly, he said, therapists appeared to be less committed to helping the client’s rehabilitation through psychological work and more concerned with security and containment, in response to political pressures.
He spoke of a “treatment paradox”, a sort of no-win situation, or Catch 22: “…in order to successfully complete sex-specific treatment, clients are required to disclose all the details of their sexual history, offenses, and fantasies; often…under the duress of compulsory polygraphs. The dilemma is that the more details that clients reveal, the more they tend to disclose possible risk factors and reinforce the grounds for their own confinement.” Thus clients who cooperate with the system are damned along with those who do not.
In making these points, Brandt quoted from the academic literature in the field, specifically a recent paper by Theresa Gannon and Tony Ward. The good news here is that papers criticising the system are indeed being published, and these critiques are clearly being discussed by such leading figures in the profession as David Prescott. Even Steven Sawyer, defending his colleagues, made no attempt to defend injustices perpetrated from above, by the courts and politicians.
Another good sign recently is to be seen in a new ATSA position paper on its website opposing the horrors of residency restrictions for sex offenders. We have all heard about these oppressive rules, especially in the US, where sex offenders can find themselves living under road bridges because all the local housing is deemed too close to a school, and thus – so it is claimed – presenting a danger to the kids who go there.
Nor was ATSA’s opposition to these unjust rules hidden under a bushel. Not many people will read their website, but the association has also been trumpeting its thinking to the media.
The New York Times had reported last month that “Dozens of sex offenders who have satisfied their sentences in New York State are being held in prison beyond their release dates because of a new interpretation of a state law that governs where they can live.” Since 2005, sex offenders in the state cannot live within 1,000 feet of a school, and a February ruling from the state’s Department of Corrections and Community Supervision extended that restriction to homeless shelters. As the onus is on sex offenders to find approved housing before they are released, the prisons have been keeping them locked up when they have been unable to do so.
ATSA head Maia Christopher leapt into the fray. She sent her organization’s policy paper to New York magazine online (not to be confused with New York Times Magazine but the NYT was doubtless sent a copy too) even before it was up on ATSA’s website. And the message could not have been more clear and robust: the association “does not support the use of residence restrictions as a feasible strategy for sex offender management” because of a lack of evidence they do any good.
Rather than increasing public safety, registry restrictions tended to decrease it, because the “unintended consequences of residence restrictions include transience, homelessness, instability, and other obstacles to community re-entry.” Since “unemployment, unstable housing, and lack of support are associated with increased criminal recidivism,” and housing restrictions lead to all three, they are a bad idea, ATSA argues.
Now, I am sure there will be some heretics here who will be reading all this with a growing sense of incredulity. How can ATSA, the dark force for decades behind regimes of coercive, confrontational cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT), suddenly emerge as radical agents of humane and enlightened policies? Does Not Compute!
Well, all you sceptics, you are not alone in going through a confusing dose of Cognitive Dissonance on this, with new facts bashing up against old experience. I feel it myself, even though another of those new facts is ATSA’s openness to at least be thinking about radical non-CBT therapy – as evidenced by its acceptance of my own recent article proposing a deeper and more humane approach. A corrective against being over-optimistically carried away has been fightback385’s comments in response to Why I am talking to the terrorists.
“Fightback” has usefully pointed out that “ATSA is still ignorant of the research on child sexuality (e.g., Floyd Martinson) and refers to children who behave sexually with each other in developmentally appropriate ways that scare Americans as ‘children with sexual behavior problems’ (CSBP), advocating the use of drastic treatments that teach them their sexual feelings (and by implication, they themselves) are wrong and dangerous.”
In further comments that I would urge everyone to read, Fightback sets out a very persuasive parallel between sex offender therapy and religious authoritarianism. The really important point underlying his thesis, I suggest, is that this authoritarian thinking has not suddenly disappeared. Especially in the US, religion is still very strong. Authoritarian politicians often invoke religious rhetoric in their thunderous denunciations of “evil doers”; and it may be that in ATSA’s other stronghold countries its members include a substantial proportion of those for whom zeal against sex “offending”, even when non-violent, non-coercive and utterly harmless, has become a secular substitute for religion.
These authoritarians have a mindset in which evidence-based policy does not figure strongly: they are content to enforce their received ideas with unquestioning vigour. Their conservative morality is accordingly unlikely to be greatly influenced by progressive forces within their own ranks: even ATSA leaders as senior as David Prescott and Maia Christopher, and researchers as prestigious as Theresa Gannon and Tony Ward, are unlikely to trump the “prophets of old” in their minds, such as Gene Abel, who pioneered CBT. And for the true believers among them, of course, there is no trumping God Himself!
Bearing in mind the continuing existence of this conservative rank-and-file, can ATSA ever be expected to make substantial progress? Even more importantly, can it contribute to changing not just itself and its therapeutic practices but also wider society?
Jesse Singal, author of the New York magazine report cited above, felt that even the relatively modest change involved in getting rid of residency restrictions was no more than a pipe dream. After all, he said, what politician wants to stand up and say, “You know what? I think sex offenders should be able to live closer to children”?
His scepticism makes sense except for the fact that civil society is not led by politicians alone; indeed they tend to follow opinion rather than lead it in our age of opinion polls and focus groups. Leadership these days has passed in many cases to the judges, especially in Europe, where human rights law has racked up many major achievements over the last several decades, including the ending of the death penalty across the continent. The US, too, has enjoyed its great moments of judicial leadership, not least in terms of its increasingly radical interpretation in the 20th century of the First Amendment: it was not the early politicians, the Founding Fathers, but Supreme Court judges such as Oliver Wendell Holmes and Louis Brandeis who most advanced freedom of expression as a vital civil liberty, less than a century ago.
The Supreme Court itself, as opposed to the influential minority opinions of its best judges, has by contrast often been disappointing, not least in terms of rejecting challenges to civil commitment. But that may not last. Crime in general has been falling rapidly in the US for years now, including sex offences against children. Despite all the hype over internet grooming and pornography, the worst of the panic there may be passing (unlike in the UK where historic celebrity and street grooming scandals continue to fuel the flames). Whereas almost the entire civic establishment would once have backed harsher penalties for sex offenders in the US, there is now a growing realisation – including within the judiciary – that unthinking harshness has gone too far. In these circumstances, a reform-minded ATSA may be surprised to find itself pushing against an open door where the judiciary is concerned. The class-action lawsuit against Minnesota’s civil commitment program may not be the hopeless cause that some might suppose.
Heretic TOC hopes that ATSA will accordingly find ways to give this lawsuit their energetic support, whether through the media or within the courtroom or both.

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James

I know that commentors don’t (and shouldn’t) decide what goes up here, but just as a suggestion: could you do a post on the NFL scandal and particularly how the media/public are handling it? It’d be a very interesting case study of how people react to obvious child abuse when there isn’t (gasp!) SEX involved. I’d particularly like to point the finger (and flip the bird) at the guy who said “I harshly discipline my one year old”. WTF?

Bloom

NFL: some combination of macho culture, steroid abuse and repeated brain trauma, that’s my guess…

James

Don’t forget that NFL players (and most professional athletes) are selected for aggression and high testosterone levels.

Bloom

Yeah, I saw a program on telly a while ago that referenced the 2d:4d finger ratio and predicted with 100% accuracy the victors of a running race between a group of random selected men. That convinced me. I’d like to see the same experiment performed with a mixed gender group tho.

James

Interesting but not unexpected. However, just anecdotally, I’m relatively athletic despite having a rather even 2d:4d but I’m told the feminine ratio is common among trans-females.

James

Even if there is No Free Lunch and search resources funge against each other, any sensible programmer would notice diminishing returns along one path and transfer resources to another. In this case the second path is physical abuse and public outrage is not efficiently programmed. Maybe we should Open Source it?
I’m actually not that well informed. I mean, I get the gist of the issue, but its not like I’ve been looking it up. I only vaguely follow US and UK news. I should probably let someone with a bit more knowledge of the subject handle the possible-guest-post.
(Speaking of vaguely following UK news, how did you feel about the results in Scotland?)

James

“…would introduce votes at 16 for all British elections.”
Excellent! I certainly wasn’t expecting that!

Linca

I find hope in the growing number of children of sex offenders who are angry about the way they and their families have been treated. These kids are now becoming 20 somethings with educations and abilities to debate and engage.
Linca

Bloom

If you have the billions to compete with secret lobbying by corporates such as Serco Group that hold governments to a minimum quota of occupied prison beds then yeah, perhaps justice will prevail. Good luck with that.
In the US, the agreed number of illegal immigrants -required- to be behind bars on any single night of the year is ~34,000.

James

“In the US, the agreed number of illegal immigrants -required- to be behind bars on any single night of the year is ~34,000.”
Don’t mean to be a tight arse, but: Citation Needed

Bloom

“Profits of Doom: How vulture capitalism is swallowing the world” by Antony Loewenstein
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sun/sun-20140914-1007-antony_loewenstein-00.ogg

James

You may not have the book right there with you so you may be unable to answer, but can you tell me Antony Loewenstein’s source? Does he cite his claim within the book?

Bloom

No I haven’t got it but I’m interested to read it so maybe I’ll buy it and have a look for you. …or it might be in the library!

Nick Devin

One of the things that surprised me from the discussion on sexnet was that the US civil commitment/sex registry approach had no support even though several listserv members worked within the system or had formerly worked within the system. I would similarly be surprised if the system had more than a smattering of support from ATSA members. The problem is that it is very difficult to effect change. A politician who supports repeal or weakening of civil commitment/sex registry laws is easily demagogued as being weak on child molesters, which is not a label a politician will race to embrace.

James

It’s an example of no one daring to urge restraint. Everyone gets status from “attacking pedophiles” and it’s political suicide to “defend pedophiles”. The inertia builds and things get bad enough that no one is happy yet no one dares speak out.

Dissident

Until, that is, things are allowed to get so bad that the “sex control” pundits invariably overreach themselves to the point that those who actually support civil rights in a general sense feel compelled to speak out. This overreach is now beginning to hit that point, which is why we see the publication of truly bold books like Roger N. Lancaster’s SEX PANIC AND THE PUNITIVE STATE (a total *must-read*).

Galen Baughman

For those of you who are not familiar with my experience with Civil Commitment, here’s a link to a profile Jim Ridgeway wrote for the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/civil-commitment-sex-offenders
The Sex Offender Hysteria is indeed a for of secular religion in American – a new dogma. The organization I work for in DC has been deeply concerned for a long time that the War on Drugs is slowly being replaced with a new campaign targeting those labeled as “sex offenders. Just as the Drug War focused on the most emotionally charge area of criminal law at the time, the popular vision of sex offenders (fueled by the media, and tv show portrayals of statistically rare cases) has represented a gold mine for the Prison Industrial Complex to tap into.
I am deeply skeptical of any progress from the professional associations whose members have found the “sex offender” industry so lucrative.
Ultimately, we need to end much more than the practice of Civil Commitment. The use of polygraphy as an interrogative tool, and the use of the Containment Model more broadly, is little more than a sham: designed to perform a law enforcement function under the guise of treatment.
Please feel free to contact me about our work on these issues: galen@curenational.org

James

They viewed a request for counsel as failure to cooperate? How? So much fail. I can’t even… argh!
I’m intrigued by the fact that absolutely no-one seems to be paying attention to the rock-bottom recidivism rates. How is indefinite commitment justified for someone whose chance of re-offending is 1 in 20?

David Kennerly

I was not surprised to hear growing voices of dissension emerge from within ATSA. It was quite inevitable, in fact. There is simply no way to reconcile the reality of the state-sanctioned degradation of “sex offenders”, which exists on a massive scale within the U.S. today, to any kind of professional body or field of study, let alone ones which are said to be SCIENTIFIC and THERAPEUTIC.
This state of affairs can only exist for so long before those with consciousnesses (and brains) begin to push-back. The other sector from which we will begin to see escalating push-back will be those in the legal profession (though not so much from prosecutors, but even a few of those).
One thing I have seen, over the years, is that some of those within sex offender treatment, having joined-up to fight the brave battle against the demons of the ’80s, have slowly come to very different positions today, having learned, through years of checking-in with reality, that the presuppositions which they once held about “offending” and “offenders”, and which infused their mission with red-hot rage and an iron resolve, simply failed to stand up to critical scrutiny.
Some have even “switched sides” and have gone from being state-funded oppressive functionaries working in locked facilities to being the kind of expert witness one would want for ones own civil commitment defense team.
Some of them will plainly state that the system as it is now constituted is hopelessly broken and grotesquely unjust (I’ve met several who say just that).
I don’t know how many there are or what proportion of those within the profession they represent, but I do know that there are many more of them now than there once was, a few of whom seem finally to have found their public speaking voices.
We know there are plenty who are still quite bad. I heard recently, however, from someone who is locked-up in California’s own civil commitment gulag, Coalinga, that one woman therapist, notorious for years as one of the worst of their tormentors, especially in her days back in Vacaville State Hospital, appears now to have changed in a pretty fundamental way, and for the better. This is said for some of the others there now, too, both “old-hands” and younger new-hires (but hardly ALL!).
It would be very ironic if the most influential voices for reform were to come increasingly from one of those industries which benefited the most, and was the most ideologically strident and unhinged, from the scary policies which began to be implemented during (their) glory days of the late ’80s.
However, I would caution that we may still be rather far from seeing truly fundamental progress.
After all, at least here in the U.S., the public, having been so thoroughly indoctrinated, will have to be, not only consulted, but convinced before very much can change.
Judges will help but, in many state and local courts in the U.S., judges are ELECTED, and therefore have every reason to pander to the electorate’s rages. Even those unelected, however, are still made to feel the heat of the public’s wrath.
But I do think (or, at least, hope) that what is beginning to take shape promises to be a battle filled with irony.

David Kennerly

The ones I know of, offhand, are not providing private mental health counseling NOT related to legal proceedings (i.e. defense evaluations or court-mandated). In other words, they are “forensic” psychologists which, I gather, is its own lucrative specialty. There are people who have a much better sense of private practice SO counselors around the country whom I would be happy to refer B4 to. Good point!

Dissident

There can be no doubt that religious authoritarianism has found refuge within the modern (nominally) democratic state in various secular guises, but which the same amount of maniacal, unquestioning zealotry is showered upon. These take the form of a few sacrosanct paradigms that are not ordinarily attributed to religion, but take the place of it quite nicely. One of these, of course, is national symbolism, such as what the American flag represents to Americans, and how years ago Hillary Clinton seriously proposed a constitutional amendment to make it illegal to burn American flags in public as a sign of political protest.
Another equally potent symbol is the paradigm of The Child. The child represents the Western conception of absolute innocence and purity, now that females in general have been lost to that Victorian-inspired mindset as its material personification of choice. Even though adults will vigorously argue that only adults themselves should have control over society, with youths under 18 having no say whatsoever, at the same time adults demonize their “sinful” sexual desires, insisting that *only* adults should bear this “sin.” This is why all institutions of Western society – with ATSA being just one overt example – have declared war on the “sin” of sexuality finding its way into the lives of children (with young adolescents swept into the concept due to sharing a legal status with children). Merciless hatred and both penal and cultural condemnation of adults with a preferential attraction to youths under 18 is just one aspect of this. Sexual behavior between children is likewise a demonized form of behavior that absolutely has to be stamped out in the name of “protecting” children. What it actually sets out to protect is not the objective safety of children, but the moralistic/conceptual paradigm that they represent to the Western adult psyche.

mr p

good point…Dissident,Its really just another take on societies screwed up attitudes to sex.porn became legal,but now child/extreme porn is penalized to
absurd degrees.Extramarital sex became acceptable but now “rape” and “abuse” has been expanded to cover absurd degrees of barely intimate activity
(touching an ass is abuse?) One way or another,sex must be censured!

Dissident

That’s another good point you hit on here as well, Mr P. The powers that be in government and the media have long realized an important tactic when it comes to censuring sexual expression in general: First go after the easy targets that the public can most quickly be emotionally manipulated into complicity with exceptions to First Amendment protections: erotic material involving children. Once that exception is ingrained into the law, they gradually move onto other things, such as the Australian parliament’s serious proposal a few years ago to ban all adult pornography featuring legally adult women who have small breasts (take a guess as to what their rationale is). From there, comes attacks on “extreme” porn like you mentioned, such as that which includes thespians in simulated scenes of rape, under the emotionalistic excuse that it “degrades” women and provides visual fuel for misogynists – despite the fact that a huge chunk of the audience of such material is women who have fantasies about being a victim.
Once that exception is justified, they move onto attacks against standard adult pornography, using the previous exceptions to First Amendment protections on sexual expression as precedent to rationalize increasingly further encroachments, and… there you have it.

James

I’ve never understood the idea that pornography (including BDSM porn) is degrading. Could someone please explain the argument behind this one?

Dissident

In short, the “radical feminists” (their euphemism for politically organized misandrists hi-jacking a politically legitimate term) have argued that heterosexual desire from the male perspective is inherently predatory and akin to “rape.” They feel that women are portrayed in such films as nothing more then sex objects for men to exploit, while totally ignoring the fact that men in these films aren’t exactly portrayed in a manner that suggests they have value for anything outside of the length of their member, not to mention usually being depicted as mindless as any of the women in those movies. The social conservatives feel that women depicted as engaging in sexual activity willingly is intrinsically degrading to the female gender, who are traditionally supposed to be more morally “pure” (read: devoid of sexual desire) than men (which is the basis for the continued prevalence of “slut shaming” in American culture). Then there is also the believe among social conservatives (at least in America) that sex should be primarily reserved for procreation, while erotica clearly depicts sex engaged in for recreational purposes.

James

Hmm. That still doesn’t explain the harm done by the films themselves. As far as I can tell, this argument should lead up to “therefor these films make me uncomfortable and I don’t want to watch them” rather than “therefor these films are the embodiment of evil and must be destroyed”. It’s how they arrive at the second claim that confuses me.

Mr Phil

(Reply to James’s Sept 18 comment.)
Ah, I guess James is too young to remember the slogan coined by Robin Morgan, of which Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon became the most prominent advocates: ‘porn is the theory; rape is the practice’.
There was a campaign to ban all porn, both as degrading to women (i.e. to women as a class, not just those depicted) and as an incitement to men (as a class, to rape women and girls as a form of class warfare — these theories have Marxist roots). Legally, the campaign had little success –the few local statutes it managed to get passed were struck down by the courts– but its ideas have taken root in much ‘progressive’ thinking about porn, especially ‘child porn’.

James

“Even though adults will vigorously argue that only adults themselves should have control over society, with youths under 18 having no say whatsoever, at the same time adults demonize their “sinful” sexual desires”
Isn’t that odd? You’d think that, if they were being perfectly honest, they’d put the people who were “pure of heart” in charge, rather than their “wicked” and “sinful” selves. These adults seem awfully invested in protecting their belief from falsification.
The clearest sign of pseudoscience is when failures to conform to experimental predictions are excused post-facto by No-True-Scotsman-s. Sure enough, sexually active minors are demonised as insufficiently “child-like” – an artificial construct in and of itself. The urge to protect the concept of innocence over and instead of actual children is utterly ridiculous.

Dissident

A common word used to describe children who display signs of intelligence, intellectual curiosity, or sexual interest and/or knowledge in America is that they are “precocious.” While this word has no real pejorative connotations, it does carry the implication that the child in question is somehow unusual or atypical compared to the level in which children in our society are ideally expected to display such traits (i.e., not at all). This is similar to how every child or young teen who accomplishes something truly impressive in our society despite the legal and societal limitations imposed on them are often described as a “prodigy.” You know, the same way women who achieved a college degree in the early 19th century despite the legal and societal limitations placed upon *them* during that era were described. This makes it easy for society in general to dismiss or overlook what such an accomplishment may imply regarding the true potential of children and young adolescents as exceptions to some important rule.
And of course, you will then see parents who “allow” their children to accomplish such great things at such a “tender” age lambasted by a legion of media voices and online commentators for allegedly denying their progeny a “true” childhood… meaning, a time of their life where they are encouraged to live an entirely carefree existence devoid of any type of accomplishment or goals outside of “doing well in school” and catering to adult expectations in general. This is basically code for “Do not let children step outside the bounds of their ‘proper place’ in society,” much as black people in the first several decades following the resolution of the Civil War were considered “uppity niggers” if they aspired to be doctors, scientists, scholars, or engineers instead of “keeping their proper place” as custodians, deliverymen, maids, etc.

James

I was always pissed off by people who’d tell me “you did great for a [insert current age here]”. One time I was actually asked what the problem was and I said “you wouldn’t dare say ‘you did well for a woman'”. I mean, tell it to me straight: was it good or bad? I don’t want to know if it’s good compared to a socially inferior reference class since that degrades any commendation.
I don’t like it when parents exert huge pressure on their children to achieve (the parent’s) goals. However, this doesn’t become OK when it’s socially acceptable goals like grades, music, sports, etc. Besides, a large part of the “childhood” they’re missing out on isn’t all it’s cracked-up to be. Get me “precocious” early achievements if they’ll keep me out of school!
Another thing is that most people assume that if a child has great achievements it’s always because of a pro-active, over-bearing upbringing. The idea is that successful parents try to forcibly mold their children into their own image. What these people fail to consider is the fact that most personality traits have a non-trivial hereditary component.

feinmann0

I would just add Tom that there is an article on the Ipce website that focuses on how civil commitment has been rolled out in the case of the sex offender: https://www.ipce.info/library_3/mag/im_06.htm.

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