Love it or loathe it, you can’t help but be impressed. The TV documentary 1,000 Men and Me: The Bonnie Blue Story, which aired on Channel 4 late last month, told – and discreetly showed – the story of how “adult content creator” Tia Billinger had sex with over a thousand men in a London “event space” in January, in the space of just 12 hours.

Wow! I don’t know which is more impressive, the sheer durability of the lady’s lady parts or the men’s required shagging speed, given that on average they would have had no more than 40 seconds each. Even British guys, notorious for premature ejaculation, might have been hard pressed to get the job done. Tia, professional name Bonnie Blue, said the actual number was 1,057 men because there were 57 still in the queue before the 12-hour time period was up, and she didn’t want to disappoint them. Isn’t that sweet? “I’m basically a community worker”, she says, and her conscientious approach suggests she is a very good one.
She isn’t picky either, accepting anyone “from barely legal to barely breathing”. At the daring “barely legal” end of the range she has done special sessions for students aged 18 upwards, and you have to think she would be happy to invite minors of any age, too, if she could get away with it. After all, she says her own active sex life started at 13 and she doesn’t regret it. She has also said she wants to do a session for the disabled and disadvantaged, including those with Down syndrome. It all makes her a paragon of diversity, equity and inclusion, so what’s not to like?
Well, you will not be surprised to hear she has no shortage of critics of her “immoral”, “depraved”, “end of days”, etc. performances. Feminist philosopher Kathleeen Stock, writing in UnHerd, was among the naysayers. Inevitably, the commercial aspect came into her critique. Bonnie’s “gimmick”, she said, was to have sex on camera “with what she calls ‘normal men’, not porn stars, then make subscribers pay to watch”. Gotta love that sly “make”! The implication seems to be that Bonnie illicitly groomed these hitherto innocent subscribers, manipulatively cheating them out of their pocket money! Quite a lot of pocket money, as it turns out. She reveals to the documentary team who followed and filmed her life and performances that her earnings were up to £2 million for the most recent month.
Did the punters get value for money? The gangbang sex action is much too speedy to include sophisticated sexual gymnastics but that’s not the point. Stock is closer to the mark with the word “gimmick”. Bonnie is offering something new, something you wouldn’t get from the professional porn stars. The most appealing aspect of this from a MAP point of view is a lovely provocation in which Bonnie sets up a “lesson” (presumably “sex education” but the documentary steers clear of that) with a class of “pupils” in school uniform. Barely legal? Looks more like pre-legal. The “schoolkids” in question are indeed of age though. They were recruited from young OnlyFans content makers, this being the platform Bonnie herself used until she was banned for violating a rule against “extreme challenges”. We are introduced to one of these young performers, who says she is 22 but could easily pass for 12.
Stock tells us that the day after seeing the Bonnie documentary she went to give a speech at an annual summer school run in memory of conservative philosopher Sir Roger Scruton. She wrote:
We don’t really need to wonder what Roger Scruton would have thought about all of this, because in 1986 he wrote a book called Sexual Desire which told us. In it, he sketched a Platonic ideal of sexual arousal: of erotic desire involving mutual recognition and communication of pleasure between you and your partner, ecstatically directed towards an irreplaceable particular person in all their specificity, rather than towards a mere selection of body parts, or some pictures on a screen. Sexual desire in this ideal state is individualising, not objectifying; it is a “cooperative enterprise” between two people, discovering new aspects of the mysterious other; it is sacred and full of awe. It is the absolute opposite of hundreds of men standing in boxer shorts and balaclavas, waiting for a few seconds of bodily contact with a woman they have never met; or of thousands of spectators, home alone with credit cards out and flies unzipped.
I have read Scruton’s Sexual Desire: A Philosophical Investigation, to give the full title. It is a dense, difficult, 438-page tome that I have studied in depth and critiqued in an academic paper. Briefly, I am not impressed. The trouble with the idea of sex as “sacred” is the narrowness of the morality to which it leads. Scruton was a homophobic bigot who loved nothing more (except perhaps seeing animals torn apart in blood sports) than discerning “obscenity” and “perversion” in any erotic deviation from his ideal standard and denouncing those engaged in such alleged sexual transgressions as “vile” or “disgusting”.
Superficially, the idea of restricting sex to loving, committed relationships is attractive. Commitment is certainly a bedrock requirement for bringing up kids. They need stable homes, and it helps when parents love each other as well as them. But the mistake is to sanctify sex as a binding factor, a holy sacrament. Scruton’s writing is secular, but his tone is religious, and his thinking sits well with Christianity’s traditional suspicion of sex (a flame that must be extinguished where possible and sanctified when it cannot) from St Paul onwards. Sex therapist Olivia Fane has put her finger right on love’s missing G spot:
Sex is not about souls. We have sexual desire when we want to have sex, not when we love someone. If that wasn’t the case, it would be the oldies who were all having rampant sex after 40 years of a happy marriage, who’d be the writers of agony columns advising those poor young people how being kind and considerate and bringing a cup of tea to their partner in bed will really get the pulse racing.
Lust, as opposed to love, is often despised for its supposed baseness and animality. But why? It is not self-sacrificing, as love is; but it is not inevitably nasty and selfish either. Just because you have an intense desire for someone’s body does not mean you have no regard for their rights and feelings. Your attitude depends on other feelings you have, which may well include kindness and goodwill.
And even love is not beyond criticism. As philosopher Harry Lesser has pointed out, “Genuine love can have a very selfish element – a desire to control and dominate another person spiritually in ways that are much more exploitative than the mere temporary use of his or her body.” (quoted in Ethics and Sex, by Igor Primoratz).
Three cheers for Bonnie Blue then? Not quite. Sure, she’s a breath of fresh air for barely breathing old-timers like me; and she offers a ray of sunshine for barely legal youngsters. Boys, especially, hear little except victim feminism’s depressing, demoralising, incessant drumbeat of puritanical drivel telling them sex is a poisoned chalice, and males are just a bunch of harassers and potential rapists. It’s great that Bonnie’s message is much more pleasure-positive and pro-male. So why deny her that third cheer?
If it were just about Bonnie, I wouldn’t hesitate to award all three. But it isn’t, because commending her work without identifying any downside would be to ignore a deplorable and dangerous aspect of the social media platforms, where she and other online celebrities compete for the viewing figures on which their fame and fortune depend. While competition is usually a good thing in commerce, driving the innovation that gives us useful product improvements and brilliant new inventions, the online attention economy has become notorious for generating extremism. In the battle to win the views, and keep ahead of the game, performers find they need to come up with new stuff all the time. And all too often the most obvious way of doing that is to repeat the winning formula but take it to the next level. If someone has shagged 10 guys in a gangbang video, you do a hundred. And when they’ve done a hundred, you whack it up to a thousand.
No big deal, you might say. Nobody is forced to take on that level of challenge. It’s an expression of personal freedom. We should celebrate that, along with the opportunity to make enough money to obtain lasting security and a decent standard of living. What worried me more, though, was when we heard about Bonnie’s latest proposed stunt. She would put herself naked in a glass box on public display in what she calls a “petting zoo”, inviting anyone passing by to do anything they wanted to her. Anything? We didn’t see the small-print T&Cs, but the documentary footage appeared to suggest people might be allowed to hit her. The project looks so reckless we have to wonder where it will all end. Bonnie tells us she gets death threats daily, hundreds of them. Her biggest fear is an acid attack.
Again, we might say it’s her face, her life, her decision. Much as we would be horrified to see her suffer a truly vicious, life-changing assault, personal freedom is not lightly to be curtailed just to keep us all safe. That would be to set us on a life-denying course that would soon rule out everything from rough contact sports to crewed space exploration.
We might, however, feel it is time to tackle the attention economy’s perverse incentive to produce ever more sensational and all too often harmful online content.
Some of those harms, to be sure, we should simply learn to live with, such as people suffering offence from so-called “hate speech”. Being able to let off steam in strong language is an indispensable aspect of free expression in a democracy. Not that abusive language is conducive to reasonable discussion leading to deeper understanding. It isn’t. Which is why I won’t put up with it when moderating the comments here at Heretic TOC. If people want to be rude to each other, let them do that on Twitter/X or in a heated exchange at Wetherspoons.
Also, for fans here of OnlyFans and other mainstream “adult” content online, I think we can agree that tackling online “harms” should not include making it harder or impossible to visit such sites, including Pornhub and others. The UK’s Online Safety Act has rightly been under severe attack recently for having exactly this effect. When new age verification rules came into effect late last month, Reform UK called the Act a “dystopian” measure that would drive youngsters towards VPN use and take them a step closer to accessing the dark web. The first part of that prediction came true immediately with a dramatic rise in VPN usage. I suspect Reform leader Nigel Farage has shrewdly judged that plenty of adults of all ages will be turning to VPNs rather than giving details that risk revealing their identities when proving their age. It looks like a massive vote winner for him over the whole age range of the electorate, especially now that Labour has promised votes for 16-year-olds.
Labour’s desperation to avoid giving Reform a huge boost is to be seen in their aggressive language, with tech secretary Peter Kyle and others saying Farage must be a friend of paedophiles if he is against the Act. That would have come as news to Nigel, I’m sure! But Labour have been hoist with their own ultra-feminist, anti-porn petard. Their parliamentary and government ranks are crammed with killjoy ideologues. These “social purity” warriors have been itching for decades to close down all porn outlets, not just ones that give access to minors. The age verification scheme enabled them to bring that a step nearer, while hiding, as ever, behind child protection as an excuse.
But this is the easy stuff to talk about, the stuff we can agree on here. So what about the real harms the big platforms are failing to deal with, evidently because the unimpeded attention economy, with its algorithms that incentivise extreme content, is the only thing the greedy capitalist tech moguls care about? How else are sites to be brought to heel when they permit really bad stuff, if not by something like the Online Safety Act? Stuff such as material that features and facilitates eating disorders including anorexia, plus self-harm, including horrific mutilation by cutting, and the promotion of suicide? Stuff that is targeted at teenagers? And as if all that were not bad enough, the latest in the news this week has been sites featuring kittens being tortured and killed. I will not be checking to see if such sites really exist (I couldn’t bear to look), but I doubt anyone is going to tell me it is just an urban legend.
In her attack on Bonnie Blue’s work, Kathleen Stock focuses on something rather less extreme but also disturbing for some of us. She notes that Bonnie is a “big fan of being choked”. I worry that this dangerous practice is becoming increasingly common among young people, and my guess is that the online world has done much to make it fashionable – with guys at least; not so much among girls, I would think. Bonnie said it was just a matter of being vocal about consent. Stock again:
But having to read out an ever-growing list of internet-approved acts you positively don’t want to participate in, every time you get into the bedroom, does not seem to me a liberating state of affairs for anyone. And for every future dead, strangled daughter who once watched a Bonnie Blue video — or whose sex partner did — it won’t be much consolation for her family to think she nominally had a choice.
While I do not think the practice is a matter to be choked off, as it were, by restrictive legislation, I do feel Stock has a point on this one.
As for whether the Online Safety Act is overall a good thing or not, I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with Farage: the age verification strategy is terrible and needs to be dropped. I find it much easier to support the government’s aim of discouraging self-harm, etc., sites, but whether the Act is the right vehicle for that is extremely doubtful. The government’s stated aim of cracking down on material that is judged harmful but not illegal looks like guaranteeing the law will be applied with oppressive overreach. But we need to see how it works in practice over the next year or two.
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A MAGA MYSTERY IS EXPLAINED
Researching Michael Jackson, as I did for many years while working on my book about him, I didn’t find it difficult to get a handle on his psychology. Many found him deeply puzzling, an unfathomable enigma. But to me (and I’m sorry if it sounds arrogant or overconfident to say this) his heart and mind were an open book. His family background explained much; and, as I shared his attraction to young boys, it was much easier for me to understand this than it would have been for your average writer on pop music or celebrity culture.
What I have found much tougher in recent years to understand has been Americans’ weakness for bizarre conspiracy theories that cast paedophiles as a hidden elite, malignly running the deep state. It surfaced in 2016 with Pizzagate, when top Democrats including Hillary Clinton were alleged to be running a child sex ring involving a pizzeria in Washington, DC. QAnon soon followed this up with related allegations.
Now the situation had morphed to a MAGA obsession with Jeffrey Epstein, a theme that at least has the merit of not being a total fantasy. Epstein was a real person, who had an undoubted interest (like literally billions of other males) in teenage girls, and he was an elite figure with elite friends. However, he was nowhere near to being “a paedophile”, as traditionally defined, i.e. having a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, so his lifestyle can hardly be taken as evidence that paedos are in control of everything (or anything). But that is a detail that doesn’t interest the MAGA folks.
It has all seemed completely bonkers and incomprehensible to me. Until now. In an article called “Critical Pedo Theory: Understanding one of the core tenets of the modern American Right”, Scott Greer explains everything. He is on the Right himself, being a contributor to The American Conservative, and is no fan of paedophilia. But just as it sometimes takes a paedo (me) to know one (Jackson), Greer knows the Right from within, and I find his explanations convincing. You can see his full article here, but you can get the gist from an extract:
This issue is important to much of the Right due to the belief in “Critical Pedo Theory.” This notion imagines that the world is ruled by a pedophile cabal and “systemic pedophilia” is inherent to the current order. These elite pedos are evil by nature, which is why they use space lasers to cause forest fires and wield their weather machine against red states. These right-wingers hoped Trump would battle the cabal as president. QAnoners thought he did so in his first term, clinging to fake news stories about the admin secretly arresting and executing prominent child molesters.
The Epstein announcement came as a shock. Here’s their leader telling them that a core element of their worldview isn’t true. Rather than follow Trump’s advice and move on, they’re up in arms, with some threatening to ditch MAGA altogether. It illustrates how fundamental CPT is to a large cohort of conservatives. Trump bombing Iran and implying he may be open to some form of amnesty didn’t elicit anywhere near this kind of backlash from his base. For a significant number of Trump voters, the pedo cabal matters more than anything else.
Critical Pedo Theory emerged in the mid-2010s. It gained credence as a response to the Left. For years, liberals would condemn right-wingers as racists. Racism is one of the great taboos in American society. The other is pedophilia, so right-wingers began calling leftists kid diddlers to defang racism accusations. The Right’s embrace of conspiratorial populism transformed this rhetoric into CPT. Conservatives were no longer just calling the Left pedos to defend against racism smears – they now concocted an entire worldview centered on pedo cabals. Pizzagate and QAnon soon followed.
Further on, Greer briefly highlights how the definition of paedophilia has been stretched:
Age gap relationship hysteria demonstrates the strength of the taboo around pedophilia. Women now call men who date younger women pedophiles, despite both parties being adults, because they know it’s the worst label one can receive. They hope it will shame men into dating women their own age.
I am sure he is right about this, but there is much more to be said on the subject. One writer who delves much deeper into it is another figure on the Right, Richard Hanania, a buddy of JD Vance. His article has the merit of drawing on an evolutionary perspective. Here’s a brief taster:
There’s been a cultural shift over the last two decades in how we think about human sexuality, one in which we’ve simply lost touch with biological realities. The idea that teenage boys can be victimized by older women, like the demand that men only be attracted to women of their own age, can only exist in a culture in which many aspects of heterosexuality are repressed, if not demonized.
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?
Sentences in England and Wales (and probably the rest of the UK) for “sex offences against children” have more than tripled in length in the 30 years since the mid-1990s, according to an AI trawl through Ministry of Justice figures. Back then the average was just under two years whereas now it is over six.
This will come as no surprise to those of us who have been around long enough to see the long-term trend emerging from a steady stream of cases reported in the media over the years, and who have seen new laws brought in to increase maximum penalties.
It is possible that much of this upward trajectory has been on a smoothly rising curve, but what catches the eye is the occasional case when a judge goes mad and suddenly takes draconian sentencing to a whole new level, taking us ever closer to the US “carceral state” model . That is what happened a couple of months ago in the case of leading LGBTQ+ activist Stephen Ireland, co-founder of Pride in Surrey, when he was given a whopping sentence of 24 years for the “rape” of a 12-year-old boy, along with related lesser offences.
Had it been a real rape Ireland would have had little cause for complaint when we bear in mind that rape carries a maximum life sentence. But it was plain that the boy had been actively seeking out sex with men – he met Ireland through the gay hookup app Grindr, for fuck’s sake (literally!) – and that in a sane world there would have been no prison sentence at all for this de facto consensual encounter. The kid even lied about his age in his bid to get laid, initially telling Ireland he was 17. Jurors heard that Ireland described him in a message to his partner as a boy who “wants to play with men’s bodies”.
But in flat contradiction of the obvious fact that the boy was up for it, Judge Patricia Lees claimed Ireland “took advantage” of “a vulnerable child”. Instead of admitting the boy was highly sexed, just like almost every male adolescent, this presumably feminist judge chose to put her own spin on it by describing him as “highly sexualised”. In other words, his sexuality was somehow not his own but the result (as she explicitly speculated, without evidence) of prior “grooming”.
In my view, this is one of the most egregious cases of unjust sentencing since Oscar Wilde was sent down 130 years ago after one of the first celebrity trials. As Wilde was one of the great literary figures of his day, it was to be expected that the trial outcome would be a public sensation, attracting huge publicity.
Ireland’s fame is nothing like as great, but he was a flamboyant, high-profile figure in Surrey and it is striking that his lengthy incarceration has not generated much of a public response from the LGBTQ+ community. Where is the shocked reaction? Where are the placards and protest marches? All we’ve had is a stunned and possibly embarrassed silence. What a sad and sorry sign of the times that is!

DON’T DISMISS DAWKINS
Late last year, and in January this year, Heretic TOC did a two-part blog, the first called “Time to get real: woke is broke”, the second being “Clearing up the conceptual confusion”. The first looked at how woke identity politics, especially on trans issues, may have cost the Democrats the US presidential election and ushered in a second Trump term. Part two examined the conceptual muddle that had allowed such dubious politics to thrive.
My intention, as I said at the time, was to unravel some knotty conceptual areas of confusion, not to trash the trans cause but, among other things, to strengthen it by giving it a foundation grounded in reality rather than the ridiculous and dangerous fantasies then being peddled by extremist activists.
This second part was the most difficult, intellectually challenging blog I have ever done, but I am in no doubt it was worth the effort, not least as regards investigating the non-binary aspect of sexuality. Note that I say “sexuality”, not sex. What I argued was that gender is non-binary (and so is our sexuality as individuals) but that sex is not. Sex is strictly binary, and we get into all manner of difficulties if we try to ignore or obscure this fundamental fact.
Now, I am delighted to report, the legendary evolutionary biologist and science communicator Richard Dawkins has given us a new essay on the subject that explains it all with far more authority and eloquence than I could muster. Dawkins is something of a hate figure on the woke left, rather like JK Rowling. This is unfortunate in both cases, but especially that of Dawkins, whose values are civilised and humane and who, above all, really knows his stuff. Accordingly, I would invite everyone to check out his new essay in UnHerd.
Since 1988: SAFF – Sub-Culture Alternative Freedom Foundation.
Tory M.P. Geoffrey Dickens, another Anglo tabloid Fake Media made Far Right fascist thug, was the prime political driver of the Satanic Ritual Abuse/SRA myth from 1988 until his death in 1995. His only political legacy is that those SRA lies caused this country very dear not only in having to fix his fantasies afterwards with obscenely expensive public enquiries but in social dissension, intolerance, and the victimisation of innocent people via Anglo fake media which rallied around Dickens to expand its own remit.
It is interesting to see activists from the ‘Child Scare Industry’ now try to re-write history and portray Geoffrey Dickens as a saint. To see the oaf in real-time click on the photo above and hear his duplicity in our SAFFutube clip.
It is right to to say that it was the gross exaggeration of the incidence of child abuse which his campaigns caused which fueled the hysterical climate in the U.K. where parents now think twice about disciplining their children in public and men walk around the block to avoid going past kids playgrounds in case they are inadvertently hung drawn and quartered.
Vile Victorian throwback (aptly named) Dickens was also the Anglo retard who personally campaigned in Holland and elsewhere in modern Europe to publicly shame them, via backward Anglo fake media, into banning their 25 years of pro-MAP/AAM Mags & Vids on open sale with no serious complaints from non-Anglos.
https://saff.nfshost.com/dickens.htm
So fergie has been dropped by six charities . Yet trump who was pally with jeffrey is given a lavish greeting. I dont get it
So i’m seeing a lot of whinin’ ‘n’ cryin’ here from those who can feel most uncongenially their cancel culture coming back to bite ’em on the ass, and sadly, to me it does not feel like rock ‘n’ roll (I had a rock criticism practice in the past so believe me i kNoW).
So i’ve conceived this wicked plan, in whose eXecution I can only hope and pray you will join me. We’re gonna spread the conviction far and wide as we can that Charlie Kirk is/was a closeted pædophile, on account of his documented hankering to go back in time and kill Muslims who betrothed children – with his BARE HANDS
As membrum virilo of a new officer class devoted to the discipline ov anthropomorphics,
I do wish I could order you to jOiN me. but (sigh..)
Yrs in bukkits of tUrPiTuDe,
Pro-active warbles
To add to discussion below about Charlie Kirk, I’ve just remembered that the org. he founded and headed, Turning Point USA, ran and still runs a “Professor Watchlist.” Feckless, disgusting and shameless hypocrites that these people are, far from championing free speech, Charlie’s organization overtly and consistently tried to make trouble for academics whose research and public statements contradicted his worldview, and attempted to get them fired…
Topics include race relations, people who oppose gun ownership or call for gun regulations, and of course the main topics of greatest concern in the popular imagination: Transgender people, Trans children, and MAPs and age-gap sex.
Some names that readers will be familiar with – Karl Andersson, Thomas Hubbard, and even David Finkelhor – have dedicated profiles. Each comes with a note at the end about how their university had reacted to Turning Point USA‘s request for comment, and a handy link where you too can go and harass other hard-working people! 🙂
Divide and conquer. And boy are they winning right now. Roe vs Wade overturned, and god only knows what next…
Yep universities have become increasingly censorious in response to things like TPUSA (and the Australian equivalent). I’m always half expecting anything I say in my classes to appear on a website. I can’t imagine the terror for scholars teaching and researching “highly contentious” topics. Thankfully the eye candy is still very good
I agree w/ the original poster: fascinating story of a lesbian age-gap couple.
I first came across Bonnie Blue when our Australian government cancelled her visa. Apparently she was coming here to corrupt young men at the end of school celebrations on the Gold Coast.
The hedonist in me thought the whole thing was great. Young men enjoying sex, engaging in the spectacle, probably sharing pics and videos of themselves having sex with her in their group chats. The younger boys watching the content enviously, wishing it was them.
For those who lived their youth in the 1970s or 1980s, I would like you to explain what the situation of paedophilia was like in those years, what are the most significant changes since then, how things have been getting worse. Because, unfortunately, everything has been getting worse.
And on a deeper level, do you think that one day things will start to change and there will be a revolution for the social and even legal acceptance of paedophiles, similar to what has happened with homosexuals in the last decades? How long do you think it will take for that to happen? Sometimes I think that, for some reason, humanity has a limit of understanding (or intelligence) and will never come to understand paedophilia, or that for things to start to change it will take many more centuries or millennia, at least 1000 years. If that ever happens, when future humans look into the past and see how paedophiles were treated in the 21st century they will be horrified in the same way that we are now horrified at how homosexuals were burned at the stake, stigmatised and imprisoned in the past.
I don’t have all the answers, CM, and it would take a whole book just to address them all in the depth they deserve.
Briefly, it was no paradise in the 70s or 80s but at least there was much more hope than now for a better future. It was relatively easy to have social contact with kids. Things might or might not take an intimate turn through such contacts but, even if they didn’t, there were nevertheless many loving friendships.
As I have written elsewhere, while I have always supported equal rights for women, the gender revolution has much to answer for. It has long since overshot its legitimate goals in a foolish quest to impose equality in the ages of sexual partners, so that any “unequal” age gap relationship, even between adults, is seen as suspect.
Well, it would be nice if you could write and publish a book explaining all that, Tom.
I have various writing projects in the pipeline, CM. The big problem is finding time to fit them in. At the moment I am tied up with a major non-MAP project that will last into next year. But at least there should be a new blog out soon.
>Sometimes I think that, for some reason, humanity has a limit of understanding (or intelligence) and will never come to understand paedophilia,
Mocking the inhuman ancient Anglo Victorian-Puritan fake sex laws. The post-WW2 timeline Anglo Rock n Roll youth counter-culture, anti-war erotophile ‘Love Generation’ t-shirts ‘Make Love Not War’. Rockin ’50s Swingin ’60s SeXy ’70s – is well known.
Previously noted here, while post-WW2 non-Anglo erotophile Europe was increasingly pro-MAPs/AAMs with MAP/AAM mags & vids on open sale in Denmark, Holland, Germany, France etc. Cautious Anglo moves to lower, abolish or even loosen the Victorian AOC via PAL/PIE/NAMBLA were CRUSHED by uptight Anglo self-loathing tabloid mob-rule MORONS.
A current, unstoppable, positive is the global millions of modern horny AAMs in Gen Selfie-Sext mercilessly mocking ancient Anglo Victorian-Puritan fake sex laws by Worldwide sharing sexual images of ADULTS!! Global millions of sexual images shared by horny AAMs which uptight Anglo cops and fake media can never stop.
The stress paedophiles are under when they are arrested is brutal. For a start, they are forcibly outed to their family, neighbours and community. They are stigmatised as abusers or rapists even though they were in fact consensual relationships with teenagers. In other words, they are labelled as abusers and rapists when they are not. Many of them have never even touched a minor in their lives. They then face agonising court cases and long sentences. In many cases, they have to pay large amounts of compensation that leave them ruined. They are brainwashed by psychologists and psychiatrists. They lose jobs, friendships, partners, family members and often find themselves without any support to cope. They are stigmatised for life, put on registers and, if they manage to survive prison, loneliness, ostracism and financial ruin, they will then find it very difficult to find a decent job and rebuild their lives. They are the most marginalised, outraged and vulnerable group of our times, because of their sexual orientation (but this is of no interest to the rainbow people). Some of them can’t stand it and commit suicide. It is the Inquisition of our times.
Thousands of people, normal and ordinary like everyone else, are arrested every year and plunged into this hellish whirlwind. Many make the news and are never heard from again. Until when?
>Thousands of people, normal and ordinary like everyone else, are arrested every year and plunged into this hellish whirlwind. Many make the news and are never heard from again. Until when?
Preaching to the long converted, defensive new man CM makes the case for attacking the fake Anglo attackers here and elsewhere, on or offline.
E.G. Vastly seXperienced Bold MAP DESTROYED an Anglo Group SOTP fasilly-tator (half-trained traffic warden) by high-lighting the fact that a so called ‘victim’ AAM, 12, had proactively sexually known Bold MAP before her dad got 6 yrs for incest when she made no mention of Bold MAP. And on her dad’s release she asked her Dad to babysit her own kids and later the whole family mourned at his funeral. The CONFUSED Anglo Sense Offender fasilly-tator raged, “How do you know all this?!” Bold MAP calmly replied, “WHY don’t you know all this – didn’t your fake Cop friends tell you?” The group collapsed in mirth as the CONFUSED Anglo Sense Offender fasilly-tator closed the session to seek HELP!
I don’t know how many people read this site or how much influence it can have, but I think it never hurts to summarise the current situation.
>I don’t know how many people read this site
Heretic TOC has been viewed 18,785 times so far this month, an average of over 850 per day.
Is that large or small? Obviously, it is very modest compared to some blogs put out by big-name celebrities, politicians and media figures who are constantly in the public eye. But for a blog by a “convicted paedophile” like me, aimed at a niche readership, it ain’t bad! Google AI rates this as a “solid, above-average audience”.
Put it another way. There are literally millions of blogs out there. Based on the figure above, HTOC is in the top 1%. Even better, only one blog in a thousand has a higher readership!
And the influence a blog has is not just about the numbers. It is about who is reading. HTOC blogs have been reported on a number of times, in media as varied as Alex Jones’s Infowars, in the US, to the UK’s Guido Fawkes political site, to Julie Bindel in UnHerd and the Daily Telegraph. And let’s not forget the core readership of MAPs and fellow travellers, many of whom have had good things to say about HTOC over the years, both in this comment space and in communications with me personally.
Finally, it would appear that many people turn up here to read the comments, not just the blog itself. This is shown by the fact that the viewing figures stay quite steady from one blog to next. They do not peak when a new blog comes out (which should be soon!) then tail off until the next new one. So, fear not CM and everyone, your input as commenters here does not go unnoticed!
I suffered considerably when the robots,sorry police came and took all my stuff. In america they may well have thrown me in jail and thrown key .. my dad told me to forget it. No i cant. The incident leaves me traumatised to this day… Gotta be careful what you say and where…
It is normal for something like this to leave a trauma that is difficult to overcome. Because paedophiles are real victims of abuse and rape by the state. The trauma that the state can inflict on minors who have had consensual relations with an adult and then find themselves in an unwanted legal process is also great. They too are victims of abuse and rape by the state that claims to “protect” them.
Can intelligent humane ConfusedMan comment on WHY?
Post-WW2 non-Anglo forward intelligent humane body-pride modern Europe was pro-MAP/AAM with MAP/AAM mags & vids on open sale during the ENLIGHTENED ‘Love Generation’ 1960s thru 1980s.
While the backward ignorant, inhuman HATEFUL body-guilt phoney Anglophone was/is anti-MAP in thought, images, and deeds. Now DARKLY dominating Europe and the rest of the World.
And naturally horny AAMs Worldwide Gen Selfie-Sext mercilessly mock phoney Anglophone fake laws while unstoppably sharing sexual images of ADULTS!!
E.G. Vastly sexperienced ‘Love Magnet’ BoldMAP in a UK group SOTP/SenseOffenderTreatmentProg commented on a sad Dad GROOMED to falsely say, “I can now see that children can NEVER find adults sexually attractive.”
Quote humane Sense Defender BoldMAP, “So, young kids don’t fancy adult pinups & posters in sexualized UK family media Page 3 et al?!” Sense Offender Treatment group collapsed in mirth as the half-trained traffic wardens/fasilly-tators sought HELP …again!
The ignorant inhuman HATEFUL phoney Anglophone needs ongoing SOTPs/Sense Offender Treatment Programs.
History shows that people have no limits in understanding, but they have a tendency to invent preconceptions, prohibitions and taboos, which become devalued over time.
It will take a long time for society to come to terms with a minor attraction. But you’re definitely exaggerating about a thousand years. I’m an optimist and think even 500 years is too much Not long ago, the age of consent was 13-12, and for decades, no one cared. Many things that were considered unacceptable are now acceptable. If it has happened before, it can happen again, just like the homosexual culture. And I believe that it will happen inevitably.
At the moment, the trend is for things to get worse. People are now being arrested even for watching AI-generated cartoons. AI itself is a threat to privacy and freedoms, since as explained in a previous post it will be used to discover people’s sexual preferences. Sentences for paedophiles never seem to be enough, however long and harsh they may be, and castration (!) hangs like a sword of Damocles. Will those who watch AI-generated cartoons be castrated in the future?
As for the age of consent, we have the disastrous example of Spain, where it was raised from 12 to 13 in 1995 and subsequently from 13 to 16. I would not be surprised if in the future it is raised from 16 to 18, and many would want it even higher.
The puritanical anti-sex wave does not only affect paedophilia. In Spain they also want to “abolish” prostitution of women in the name of feminism and socialism. Of course any kind of forced prostitution should be banned, nobody disputes that. But they want to prohibit ALL prostitution, also the freely exercised one, by fining and even imprisoning the clients, against whom an institutional and media campaign of detraction was started years ago.
Voices have even been heard calling for a ban on “normal” pornography between adults, and restrictions on access to such currently legal content are being prepared.
It is likely that in the near future personal documentation will be required for every user who wants to access adult pornographic content, as long as it is legal and not banned in the name of feminism. Because lately there has been a lot of concern about the access of minors to porn, who apparently can be traumatised for life if they see an ass or fellatio.
Now it is shocking to remember that in Spain, in the early 2000s, pornography was broadcast on free-to-air television! Until the socialists banned it.
These are just a few examples of the regression we are experiencing. What hope for change can there be in the medium or even long term?
Really weird to me, “Captain,” that socialists would be anti-porn and anti sex-work. Of course, for those whose focus is working people’s rights, some feminist socialists will look at the sex trade and see it as exploiting poor women who sell sex, sometimes under the influence of a pimp. The problem, as many sex positive socialist-types like myself have argued, is that sexploitation is only one aspect of sex work. Many people, especially in 1st world countries like the UK and US, actively choose and enjoy sex work of various kinds – now opened up in new ways that don’t necessarily involve interpersonal physical contact – which can be very lucrative on sites like OnlyFans.
The problem has always been that “Left wing” politics is fundamentally about economics, the gap between the working class (e.g. Engineers at Tesla) and the capitalist class (e.g. Elon Musk who owns Tesla and became the richest man on earth off the backs of other peoples’ labor…) “Left wing” politics doesn’t inherently say anything about sexual politics, since that’s not it’s focus. Marx and Engles were famously homophobic, as were many great Socialist leaders and thinkers when homophobia was common place during the 20th century.
I wish porn were shown on mainstream TV, though some Western programmes get close to it, such as British TV shows “Naked Attraction” and “The Open House.”
What hope is there? Well, with how crazy and unreasonable the “age-gap Antis” are becoming, with countries moving to overtly criminalize cartoons(!!!), we will see increasingly unjust state and social persecution being perceived as ridiculous and OTT.
The problem, as always, is getting people riled up / motivated enough to get involved. You will need media, defiant and charismatic advocates / figureheads, and ultimately to push through the negativity and create a climate where people feel emboldened to speak out. The political Right has very successfully done this in recent years, throwing its weight behind Donald Trump and making excuses for him and nyon every turn.
All the while, the billionaire, elite funded Fox News pushes out propaganda and outage fuel, and elites start to bankroll and colonize the less regulated social media landscape – its friendly face envelope pushers being Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, Brett Cooper, and so on. Its beyond the pale neo-nazis like Nick Fuentes, however, are performatively “disavowed” whenever they push the envelope too far.
What is needed is funding for serious and dedicated media that can also colonize the internet and media landcape, but provides sympathetic takes on “sex offenders,” “MAPs,” etc., riling people up with “how crazy the world has become” – [“they’re arresting people for cartoons!!!”] – “they’re breaking up families over every boy’s dream!” [woman-boy school affairs]. It could be done, and I have every confidence that eventually, it will be…
https://www.brianribbon.com/home/were-the-porepunkah-shootings-an-act-of-self-defense
I will tackle the Charlie Kirk shooting next.
This was a beautifully written, incredible piece Brian. Thank you for writing it. Just bursting with reason, clarity and evidence. Very thoughtful and persuasive.
Thank you for your comment. I was a little concerned that the final summary didn’t really answer the main question posed.
In fact, the war against paedophiles is so cruel and so unjust that I find it incomprehensible that more people do not act in self-defence.
I’ve posted below in response to Strat’s notice that Prostasia has shut down, and now Reduxx has picked up the story:
EXCLUSIVE: Pro-Pedophile Charity Prostasia Foundation Shuts Down Due to ‘Climate Shift’ (Sep 18, 2025), by Genevieve Gluck.
I must admit that I take some small pleasure in reading their articles, since I get to use my critical thinking skills to look past their rhetoric and decipher what’s actually happening.
They quote Allyn Walker as ‘entertaining theories’ that “allowing pedophiles to access “high quality child pornography […] will reduce sexual abuse.” What they don’t say, is that Allyn did not come up with this phrasing. It’s actually a quote from a team of researchers including Finkelhor of all people! In other words, this is mainstream stuff, coming from one of the most well-known researchers in the field. That’s probably one reason Allyn felt comfortable ‘entertaining’ the idea…
There are other shrill points of moralizing, emotive rhetoric designed to outrage readers: saying that “Fantasy Sexual Material” depicting children necessarily depicts “the rape of children”, that Alaric Nuade – himself a cancel culture promoting, raging bully on Twitter – was “bullied” by Prostasia after publishing what was in-fact a “defamatory” article about them.
You get the point.
The never-ending story: an endless discussion for the sake of discussion and without any purpose. Very same debate, same controversies, same hyperboles 35 years ago, and they’re still arguing the same way. It reminds me of Trump welcoming Putin on the red carpet, and a month later issuing sanctions against Russia.
The study of chronophilia, or attractions centered around age as a proxy for developmental sexual maturity, is getting nuanced…
See Arenzon, V., Curtis, A., de Almeida, H., and Evanoff, C. (2025). “Overlap in Erotic Age Preferences: Support for the Chronophilia Theory in a Community Self-Report Sample of Males”, Sexual Offending Theory Research and Prevention, Vol. 20.
As I summarized on Newgon,
There’s more detail quoted on the sexual orientation page, where I quoted B4U-ACT’s most recent quarterly review journal issue:
A collage image helpfully uploaded to Newgon, showing Charlie Kirk’s paranoid, anti-pedo posting:
He basically goes along with popular culture war stories, saying that the UN advocates for the “decriminalization of sex with minors,” that Disney has a “groomer agenda,” and even shares Reduxx posts…
This, coming from a man who was so against abortion, that he stated he wouldn’t even allow his own 10-year-old daughter to terminate a pregnancy if she were raped. I mean, I’m all for supportive parents helping their kids through sticky situations, but children are not chattel: if she doesn’t want to have a baby, it’s her body and ultimately her choice…
Kirk was a smiling, billionaire funded force for evil, whose death is now being used to further crack down on his political opponents. (The latest being the Jimmy Kimmel story and “Antifa” being declared a terrorist organization. I can just feel the “free speech” flowing)…
lets see, he would have executed me in public, yet he was a Christian and i cant mock him? twilight zone…
Exactly the same bulls**t was believed in the past about homosexuals : “Homintern”, “Homo Lobby”, “Gay Mafia“, etc. Now bigots have replaced “Homo” with “Pedo”.
Jo Bartosch in Spiked:
How Pride in Surrey became a shield for a paedophile.
“Paedophile” has clearly lost all meaning where the masses are concerned. That’s why “MAP” is a much more useful term, despite the conspiracy theories people try to attach to it…
Anyone and everyone seems to be a “pedo” nowadays. It’ ridiculous.
Although Stephen Ireland’s behavior is close to pedophilic, to my knowledge he had an adult lover, and there’s little to indicate he is preferentially attracted to people before puberty??
I keep seeing my media refer to Jeffrey Epstein as a “prolific pedophile” and it’s just getting ridiculous.
Where are the pre-pubescent children!? Are they hidden somewhere? Are they in the room with us right now?! I can’t find them because they don’t exist! Funny that! (Facepalm)…
The only way that will change is if media started using terms like hebephile or ephebophile . Wow my phone recognises those terms! They wont of course. They think WE are changing its meaning. No you are changing the meaning of hundreds of years!
There are few words with a clearer and easier to understand meaning than the word “pedophilia”: love or attraction for children. That and nothing more. And “pedophile”: one who has a love for children. I don’t know how the meaning of “pedophilia” could have become so perverted.
And it is not only the meaning of the word paedophilia that is degraded and manipulated. Other terms such as ‘boylover’ or ‘MAP’ undergo a similar process. I have even read stupid things like “the boylover gang”, “MAP ideology” or talk about MAP as a criminal organisation, “the MAP organisation”.
Not told by ignorant Aberaonye at the un-peeled Oxford Onion. Ignorant anti-MAP, anti-social, anti-Christ ‘Christian’ Kirk didn’t even know that pro-social Christ was born to a pubescent girl/AAM happily wed to a middle-age man/MAP and then impregnated by an ancient invisible MAP/God/Pedo – DOH!
Take that to yer ‘Turning Point’ – PUNK!.
Meanwhile back on topic cums ‘Barely Legal’ HOT Bonnie’s ‘BANG BUS’ in, er, OXFORD.
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/25462095.oxford-university-silent-bonnie-blue-bang-bus-approaches/?dicbo=v2-J2RBrb2
Im not sure if it didnt post or i said something i shouldn’t but ill try again. Woke up other day and on yt. A video about rape. Top comment , ‘ he was seeing a 17 yr old age 23 that is a red flag. That shit is weird’. I got up for a bit and went back to bed. Left me very depressed… Tom did you not allow my comment as i said something bad about charlie kirk? I know . I shouldnt celebrate death
But. Pretty sure hed have had us all lockedup for eternity….
[MODERATOR: Matt, you wrote: “Tom did you not allow my comment as i said something bad about charlie kirk?” No, but I did disallow it on related grounds. It’s fine to express disapproval of Kirk or anyone else in public life. Where I felt you crossed the line in the comment I blocked was in celebrating his death. That would be OK if Kirk or anyone else had died of natural causes. Such a celebration might be in bad taste but I would publish it. The problem in this case is that he died by assassination. Cheerleading of assassins comes perilously close to incitement to violence, which is not just against my policy, it is also a criminal offence.]
fair enough….. but the irony is.. people are advocating for the death of us quite regularly ! but sure i personally might hate people but i would never kill anyone. once you deem it ok to kill one person… someone will say its ok to kill a different person, and so forth until its ok to kill anyone ! so i will just say. i will not be upset over kirks death. im very anti gun btw
Yes, Matt, Charlie Kirk would have not only locked you up, he would’ve killed you. The only time I’ve ever posted about Kirk here, was to cite his Jubilee interview a year ago – now with over 30 million views – where he states that if he could go back in time to where “child marriage” was normalized, he’d kill all those “pedophiles” with his bare hands…
Charlie died ironically, having spent his last moments on this earth arguing in defence of American gun ownership before being fatally shot himself. In life, he became a close friend to Donald Trump’s son and eventually a staunch ally and friend to Trump himself, even writing The MAGA Doctrine (2020). Kirk advocated for his political opponents, in particular Joe Biden, to be imprisoned and sentenced to death. He advocated for other political opponents, such as Zohran Mamdani, Mehdi Hasan and Ilhan Omar to be deported; so much for “free speech”! He unironically believed and advocated that abortion is murder and should be illegal, with Since then, his wish has effectively come true, as Roe vs. Wade was overturned… He promoted misinformation about George Floyd after he was killed, and later misleading claims about the efficacy and safety of COVID-19 vaccines [I can assure you, the vaccine was perfectly safe…]
He promoted the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory and called universities “islands of totalitarianism.” In doing so, he has arguably helped to set the stage for what would become the Trump regime’s war on education, overseeing the attempt to defund “DEI Programs” [courses that promote critical thinking such as critical theory and queer studies], impose research restrictions, and freeze grants at Harvard and other institutions…
In early 2023, he said that transgender women in women’s locker rooms should be “taken care of the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and ’60s”. On April 1, 2024, Kirk called for Trump to propose a nationwide ban of gender-affirming care for transgender people. The same day, he called for the imprisonment of doctors who perform gender-affirming care and demanded “Nuremberg-style” trials for them.
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In sum, then, Kirk argued consistently for stripping the rights and freedoms of so many, especially sexual and gender minorities, women, and immigrants. He was an enemy to sexual freedom everywhere, unless of course you were married and heterosexual. All of this info and much more is public and available via his Tweets, his statements on camera, and his opponents and fans who document his views and advocacy.
I would rather Charlie Kirk have retired, given up politics, or died some other way. But the fact is the money was too good to stop, and in a country known for its gun violence, it’s not surprising someone took a shot… Had he lived in Europe, somewhere with less inequality and more sensible laws, it’s unlikely this would’ve happened…
I don’t even think Charlie was wrong about everything, or that he was a completely disingenuous grifter who didn’t believe his own rhetoric. I agree with him, for example, that Kamala Harris was a bad candidate. And that for many people, university is a “scam” or at best delayed for a year or two… It’s tons of other stuff that I disagree with him about…
Today, whilst nyon every major U.S. Democrat politician, from Joe Biden to Bernie Sanders has condemned the shooting, the political Right are now using Charlie’s death to essentially call for civil war… The only rejoinder I’ve seen to Kirk’s critics, has been to say “he has a wife and kids!”, as if all those who die of gun violence (which Charlie accepted as the justified collateral damage of gun ownership), don’t also have families? Didn’t Mussolini, Stalin, and tons of other contentious figureheads, media personalities, and political leaders, also have wives and children?
It is horrible, but it’s part of the risk of being a contentious political figure, from Abe Lincoln to Shinzo Abe and many others. Especially so, for those who are not giving people rights and freedoms, but taking them away…
Many brave, erudite and provocative responses to Kirk’s politics have been made by Destiny, Vaush, and Trans creators like Brigette Empire or Jessie Gender… Or Andrew Callaghan, who conducted an exclusive interview with The Last Person to Debate Charlie Kirk…
Wow! This comment is pretty much a Newgon page in itself. Kirk’s dark record absolutely needs the extensive referencing you have given here, Prue. Superb!
For those free speech enthusiasts, such as me, who had only vaguely heard of Kirk before his assassination without knowing much about his views*, except that he is right wing, his style was seductive. Here was a guy who seemed to be a debater, not a dictator, who listened to his opponents carefully, and answered them with apparent respect and courtesy. Those qualities seemed very attractive.
In the days after his death I saw a YouTube video of him at the Oxford Union not that long ago, debating sequentially with a number of students there. One of them was George Abaraonye, President of the Union, who is now in hot water for allegedly celebrating (I don’t know the details) Kirk’s killing.
Female students before him had asked about abortion rights among other things. Kirk’s line was standard right-to-life stuff (but right to life apparently does not apply to “paedophiles”!), in which of course he is well versed.
Abaraonye, who I think was the first male student to challenge Kirk, got onto toxic masculinity, a concept Kirk took issue with.
As with his handling of the other students, it has to be said that Kirk’s demolition (for that’s what it was) of Abaraonye was brilliant. Poor George was left flummoxed. At the end, he was cornered into a crestfallen admission that he simply did not have any answer after Kirk had refuted his assertions on the reasons for rising levels of male suicide.
If anyone thinks my scoring of the fight gives Kirk too many points, you can check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqSNEiLTeY
The fight didn’t need any scoring. Kirk won by a clear knock out.
This is not to say I agree with Kirk on this or any subject. Mainly, I disagree completely, especially as regards killing “paedophiles”!
What we need on the Left, I suggest, is not assassins but better debaters. If these students were the best that Oxford University had to offer, it does not say much for the quality of political debating in British universities these days. Perhaps too many people, especially on the Left, have spent too much time in their social media silos talking only to each other, not testing their views against what the other side is saying.
* Added after initial posting: Guess I should have known Kirk’s opinions as Prue tells us we were warned here at HTOC a year ago. My bad. The name Kirk must have failed to register.
Strangely enough, Kirk is reported to have spent his last weekend on Ærth in Japan, whereto he was invited by Sanseito, that rising band of political aspirants who aim to change the façade at least, of politics. As the accompanying poster shows, they consider themselves latest in a line of fairly staunch company!
I certainly agree that “What we need on the Left, I suggest, is not assassins but better debaters.”
It’s why I argue for “an army of early Vaush” all the time. We need charismatic, confident people willing to “roll around in the mud” as Destiny recently put it.
The problem is that “the Left” have barely any financial backing, unlike Charlie Kirk who was funded by the financial elite throughout his life, or Brett Cooper and others who were actors or early career pundits picked up by PragerU and the Daily Wire.
Leftists inherently start out at a disadvantage. But that doesn’t mean they’re unpopular or shouldn’t try. From Contrapoints to Shaun and many others, Leftist voices are out there racking up millions of views.
We just need more message discipline, more live debates to compliment the video essays, and more willingness to move into and support real-life politics (i.e. to stand for political office or make consistent effort to support those who do).
The Left are now at a massive disadvantage on Twitter, now it’s owned by Elon Musk. But other than that, though the Right are becoming everything they claimed to be against, doxxing and threatening people’s jobs over their criticism of Charlie Kirk, there’s always opportunities for progress.
Personally, I’m not surprised that much of the world appears to be gearing up for a battle between further Lefts and Rights, with the far-Right likely winning out in the immediate future. That’s not surprising, since Leftist revolutionary governments only tend to get any traction when things are *really, really bad,* and Nigel Farage just like Donald Trump before him will certainly make the ecomomic situation of the most vulnerable much, much worse…
Hm. Im speechless. Ive posted about him on fb.my ‘friends’ well some are sticking up for him. (I have many antis on my fb. But i guess i have to have some people on there). I gotta be careful what i say. But i did get some likes… Ill post a video next where he sed sumthin bout black ppl….
This video may help you, made a month before his death:
Charlie Kirk is a Racist
Hi Prue can you possibly tell us the time-point on this video where he says what you quote ? (Trying to read dozens of things at once as usual and impatience takes over) I for one have not even begun to get my head around the instantly mythopoeic dimensions of this assassination compared to that of Melissa Hortman, which mediatrically speaking may as well not have happened at all!
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> Will do! Will get back tya!
Hey Warb, the anti-pedo guy comes in around 13:30 minutes in.
In case you’re unsure, the link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV29R1M25n8
Flipped script.
SHOCK! Anglo police can’t control global millions of sexually amused erotophile children in EVIL groups, GUILTY of sharing indecent (many self-made) images & reels of erotophile ADULTS often with erotophile amused children!
BLAME 1980s non-Anglo erotophile amused child Delphine Lecompte now globally popular.
AAM https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Adult_Attracted_Minor
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=delphine+lecompte
Because of society’s attitude towards sex in this day and age I agree with the Youtuber when he says that doing what Bonnie is doing could ruin her social life but if society was to change its attitude towards sex then that would not happen.
TikTok’s Biggest Predator | Bonnie Blue
Rather than the alleged bigotry and restrictions of Scruton’s ideal, what do the enemies of loving, committed man-girl relationships offer instead? Grindr (with de-facto police protection of the activist perp, seeking to rape a kid) out of bounds for the vast majority (who love children, and parents who aren’t clamoring to sign up their 6-year-old daughters)?!
Not only do I believe boys and girls deserve better than Grindr, they’d also benefit more from loving and committed relationships. Is there substantive evidence young girls react more positively to Grindr-style relationships (lacking love and committment) with, or without, penetrative sex?
I would just suggest that being a friend of personal freedom does not entail being an enemy of committed relationships, for those who want them.
Below I replied to a comment about Francis Bennion, a deceased barrister who became a trenchant critic of UK sex offence law when he was writing in the 2000s. He was especially pissed off that the law criminalized ‘children’ for having sexy time with other children; fair enough…
There seems to be more to his views than that, as he’s pretty ‘pro-sex’, ‘sex = good’, not ‘sinful’ or any other such mystical nonsense. But what just caught my eye is that he appears to write about you, Tom O’Carroll!
No, he didn’t review your Rad Case and say it wasn’t “radical” enough, not quite that. It appears, however, that he wrote a brief comment about your show trial over ‘indecent images’, and agreed with yourself and Alisdair A. Gilliseppe, that simple nudity on a beach should not qualify as ‘indecent’.
It could be about someone else, but it certainly sounds like your case. Here’s the link to his brief comments:
https://web.archive.org/web/20120423104338/http://francisbennion.com/pdfs/fb/2009/2009-046-child-nudity.pdf
Yes, this was my case.
Bennion’s note cites it as R. v O’Carroll [2003] EWCA Crim 2338/ . This correctly refers to the decision in the EWCA – England and Wales Court of Appeal.
However, this was not the end of the matter. Very much in line with Bennion’s view of the case, which I did not know about at the time, I made a further appeal to the ECHR. When fighting the case in Europe, I had to conduct the case without benefit of a lawyer, as legal aid was not available. My argument, although, as I say, made on the same grounds as Bennion’s, which I still believe to be sound in law, failed to find favour with the court.
This case was O’Carroll v United Kingdom (2005), which was written about in this law journal article:
Gillespie, A. A. and Bettinson, V. (2006) European Court of Human Rights: ‘Indecent’ images: European Convention on Human Rights, Article 7.O’Carroll v United Kingdom (2005) 41 EHRR SE1. Journal of Criminal Law, 70 (2) pp. 127-130.
http://hdl.handle.net/2086/6524
I should perhaps add that the English judicial establishment seemed to be in two minds about this case and almost embarrassed by their own ruling in support of the conviction. There was a separate appeal, which I won, against sentence. The trial judge had imposed a nine-month prison sentence. The appeal court quashed this entirely, but by the time the case was heard I had already done most of the time!
She is a f*cking hero: https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Delphine_Lecompte
I just *had* to make a page on her; she deserves it for her bravery and honesty.
Suggestion for edits are welcome.
Proactive pre-ten AAMs ROCK (and want to Fuck).
Now where’s the Worldwide AAMU chaired by fearless DELPHINE with pre-school chant, “My mind, my body, my choice, my MAP – mind yer own!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphine_Lecompte
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_Heads_(British_TV_series)
Is intellectual dishonesty a requirement for editors, given the bias against man-girl pedohile relationships, e.g. misrepresenting Rind’s analysis of a Finnish nationally representive student sample (in which young girls in retrospect clearly reacted worse to e.g. non-penetrative sex and coercion)?
It’s no bias, it’s my understanding of the relevant literature; I’ll have a check over Rind’s recent stuff, but whilst I do, feel free to quote me anything proving me wrong. Happy to update what I wrote if I’m incorrect on this one.
How would you improve this passage? Would you remove it? In my understanding, it’s an accurate statement, but I could be wrong and I’m sure it could be improved:
Lord Peter Mandelson has been sacked as UK ambassador to the US, after days of mounting criticism over his links with the late Jeffrey Epstein.
[In fairness, if Angela Rayner can get sacked over not paying enough tax many years ago, then it doesn’t take much…
Jeffrey is once again being referred to as a “pedophile” despite him having no discernable interest in young, pre-pubescent children.
And despite Peter Mandelson and other’s having referred to Jeffrey in glowing terms during his lifetime – “we love you” – etc., there seems to be little critical reflection on what this indicates about his character / personality. I.e. that Jeffrey was probably not a brutal, violent monster who “raped” thousands of young women, but a man who (like all heterosexual men) liked young-looking, neotenous women. Some of whom, unfortunately for him, may have been below 18…]
The news is so interesting lately! New Epstein documents are coming out, with Trump trying to deflect and claim that the whole “Epstein thing” is actually a “democrat hoax.”
Perhaps much bigger news, the right-wing debate bro Charlie Kirk, has been assassinated on film whilst speaking at a public event. Shot in the neck, the news until recently claimed he was “in critical condition,” but as soon as you see the footage it become clear… he died instantly.
The shooter is reportedly still at-large…
17-Year-Old Says She’s In Love with Her Boyfriend Who is Nearly 30 (Youtube short, Dr. Phil)
Wish i could comment. But my comments just disappear…. And the us has the audacity to talk about us not having free speech…
Yeah, not all comments get published. Thanks for commenting where you do, all the same 🙂
Are you on savannah apes channel at all? theres a bully on there by the name of
bubba
haha been giving him shit back though. comments mostly appear on there…I love Savannah Ape. He’s a modern day hero.
I just wish he posted more, but I suspect he’s moved on to other things at this point. Work life has taken over. Maybe even having kids and building a family of his own…
He seems a great and decent guy. I hope only for the best for him.
A book doesn’t contain “mature adult themes,” it contains “sexually explicit content.”
Starting to see this more and it’s pissing me off. The implicit exclusion, as if when I was a kid this was not “for” me, when in fact most media I liked – even the so-called “children’s” content – was stuff with very “adult” themes.
We want plot! We want edge! We want meaning and story! Even as “children.” And that, lo and behold, often involves sex. Sexual tension, desire, and erotic displays or suggestion meant to interest the viewer. Boob flashes, a tight fitting outfit, and bare chested karate men: whatever it is, sexuality is usually found bubbling under the surface, thinly veiled in whatever’s popular.
getting called a pedophile by loony americans on facebook so ive deactivated. the weird thing- wasnt talking about young people at all! i was just condemning mass shootings! i got called a leftist cuck pedophile ! does this word even mean anything anymore?? not the first time this has happened.. a lot of my friends frown on my anti americanism but look at them !
Just a note that the piece on MU about Michael Salter and his team’s hit piece on the term “MAP” in academia, and the academics who use the term:
It’s noted that Craig Harper et al. responded, but it’d also be worthwhile to cite B4U-ACT’s response to Farmer et al. in their B4U-ACT Quarterly Review journal. Although I totally respect Harper et al. and I’m glad they replied publicly, I think B4U-ACT’s critique is much more powerful and comprehensive.
Taken together, these critiques make a much stronger response to Michael Salter’s crew than Harper’s piece alone. I hope that Strat et al., when you see this, can update the MU article to link B4U-ACT’s contribution…
Thanks, I’ll work it in. Above all else, it is good to have input from a MAP rights organization, or one of the closest things to it.
P.S. do you know who exactly funds Salter’s little group of succubi over there? Usually when there’s a group of them at the same university towing the same line, it means long term funding from some external institution.
I don’t know but we can find out :p
Although he did not favour total abolition, Francis Bennion, a British liberal humanist and barrister also influenced by the historical context of the issue, emphasized the fact that children are “sexual beings”, concluding that this in itself makes legal prohibitions unfair.[27]
https://www.amazon.com/sex-code-Morals-moderns/dp/0297820745/ref=sr_1_5?/
Miranda Sawyer, British journalist specialized in music and youth culture, suggested that “we have sexual feelings from a very early age”, considering that sex is “natural behaviour”. She favoured lowering the age of consent to 12 in the UK while labeling the criminalisation of sexual activity under the age of 16 as “laughably unrealistic”.[28] In 2004, Sawyer wrote, researched and presented an hour-long documentary for Channel 4 about the age of consent, Writing in The Guardian in 2003 an article entitled Sex is not just for grown-ups she argued for the age of consent to be reduced to 12.[9][10]
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=Miranda+Sawyer+%27Sex+is+not+just+for+grown-ups
Interesting post, Pup, as is your other one on Francis Bennion and Miranda Sawyer.
However, rather than the Pall Mall Gazette morphing into the Daily Mail, according to WP it was the Evening Standard:
>The Pall Mall Gazette was an evening newspaper founded in London on 7 February 1865 by George Murray Smith; its first editor was Frederick Greenwood. In 1921, The Globe merged into The Pall Mall Gazette, which itself was absorbed into The Evening Standard in 1923.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pall_Mall_Gazette
Well spotted Tom. The Anglo bourgeois muddle-class Standard, same Anglo sensationalist Tory crap well noted in non-Anglo Italian Gabriel D’Annunzio’s 1890 novel ‘The Pleasure’ the Pall Mall Gazette referenced as “the scandalous English newspaper”. Quote 20th-21st Century
bourgeois Tory muddle-class Mail editor Paul D’Acre, “Sensation sells, dull facts don’t.” And Anglo Canadian Tory Brit, Max Aitken (made Lord Beaverbrook) owner of the top selling (pre-Sun) excess-Express, to his future criminal perjurer nephew Jonathan just down from Oxford, “Become a journalist my boy. All you have to do is go out and make mischief.”
Francis Bennon’s defunct website is still available on the Wayback machine archive, where you can read his writings on children, sex, and the law.
He seems extremely straight talking and sex positive.
His book where he discusses the topic: https://web.archive.org/web/20160215111139/http://francisbennion.com/2003/001.htm
Bennion reviewed Parker Rossman’s book on man/boy sexy time in 1979: https://web.archive.org/web/20160313141206/http://francisbennion.com/pdfs/fb/1979/1979-007-men-and-boys.pdf
And there’s probably more relevant stuff on his website.
Will make a page on his so it’s out there, easier to find in the ether…
Im aware of mirandas old views. But what are they now? I assume they are still the same but i think we know why she hasnt mentioned anything since .. john humphreys had a view on the epstein thing. ‘welk they were underage,but its not like they were 9’. Hes said nothing since… American author . Firgot his name. Mentioned too many ppl being locked up for cp. Apologised. Wimp ! John grisham.
New on Newgon: https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Miranda_Sawyer
Good page. Sawyer is great on teen sex but clearly not that radical as she wanted to “tighten laws against paedophilia” at a time when they were already draconian.
What she mean by ‘tighten up’ to save me researching it?
We can only guess at what she had in mind. Even tougher sentences, perhaps?
There is a beautiful film, For a lost soldier, which shows the reality of paedophilia through the loving and sexual relationship between a 27-year-old soldier and a 12-year-old boy during the Nazi occupation of Holland. It is based on a true story, as the Dutch dancer Rudi van Dantzig had such a relationship in real life when he was a child.
A must for anyone who wants to understand what paedophilia really is. I doubt very much that For a lost soldier will be shown on any TV channel, but it can easily be found on Youtube.
Non-Anglo/Dutch 1986 book by Rudi van Dantzig. Mostly positive (not many Anti) reviews, even on Anglo Wiki.
Despite its controversial themes, Dutch director Roeland Kerbosch said that the film was broadly accepted. “In Holland, audiences just took it as a love story,” he said. “And that’s also what happened in New York, because it’s a love story, a beautiful and romantic one at that.”[4]
Stephen Holden of The New York Times praised the film’s “refusal to load the story with contemporary psychological and social baggage” but wrote that the film was unable to achieve a “coherent dramatic frame”. He added that the film does not insinuate Walt was responsible for harming Jeroen or had abused Jeroen, and also that within the work “is no mention of homosexuality.”[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_van_Dantzig
https://kerbosch.com/about/
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=For+a+lost+soldier%2C
I would like to ask for quality bibliographical recommendations on the following topics.
– The emergence and development of the sexual taboo. When, how and why humans began to frown upon sex and public nudity.
– The emergence and development of the incest taboo. When, how and why humans began to frown upon sexual relations between family members.
– Acceptance and rejection of homosexuality in different cultu
res around the world. I have repeatedly searched for literature on the subject and have found hardly anything. And the little I did find did not seem very reliable.
– Homosexuality and pederasty in Ancient Greece: How did the Greeks really view homosexuality and intergenerational relationships? There are many books on the subject, but I don’t know which of them are more truthful and really worthwhile. Also, some conservatives say that the famous tolerance of homosexuality and pederasty in Ancient Greece is a much exaggerated myth and I don’t know if there is any truth in that.
– And in general, any book that deals with the subject of paedophilia in a serious and rigorous way and from any perspective (historical, anthropological, philosophical, scientific).
These are quite broad questions and their answers will depend on the time and place, but in terms of sources and trends:
-A general sexual taboo? The simple fact is that every human society has had some form of sexual stigma, even if it’s wildly different to ours (e.g. kissing being seen as unusual or scary, which for us is normal…) Ancient Greece permitted pederasty, and saw small cocks as desirable (which is why Greek statues of muscular men have small penises); in the West today, pederasty is taboo and we venerate large cocks… Either way, on this question I recommend “Martin Killias, The Emergence of a New Taboo: The Desexualisation of Youth in Western Societies since 1800” (2000), and Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg‘s text “The Paedophile Impulse: Toward the Development of an Etiology of Child-Adult Sexual Contact” (1988), which I feel touches on this idea whilst giving a broad, general overview that’s extremely sympathetic to the plight of the paedophile.
The answer to your question, I believe, has a lot to do with the introduction of ideas of “sin”, mixed in with human tendencies towards forming in-groups and out-groups, and the fact that human life was often much bleaker and full of medical problems, disease and death until relatively recently, which bled out into stigma around sex as “clean” / “dirty” as well as “corrupting” or “impure.” There’s also anthropological reasons like climate, with hotter countries tending to equal less clothing, and cold, not so much. Or war, where countries tend to push an agenda of baby-making when needing to replenish an embattled population.
-Incest: Check out the research listed under “Incest (family sex)” here. Note that Tom O’Carroll, author of this very blog site, has written on incest in 2017: “Arthur P. Wolf: Incest Avoidance and the Incest Taboos, Two Aspects of Human Nature“.
-Cross Cultural Homo acceptance? Oceanic Homosexualities, ed. by Stephen O. Murray (1992), who also coincidentally edited an entire book about “Boy-Wives and Female Husbands” in Africa (1998), will do you right. There are probably more general homo history sources I’m not aware of, as much scholarship is specific to one culture and period at a time; perhaps others’ll have suggestions.
-Ancient Greek Pederasty? Thomas Hubbard’s “Sourcebook” if you want to see the sources (vase paintings etc.) for yourself. Otherwise, anything that sounds interesting by Andrew Lear, Simon Goldhill, or Christian Laes will do. The classic text is Kenneth Dover’s “Greek Homosexuality”…
-A comprehensive book about “Paedophilia”? If you’ve yet to read it, Paedophilia: The Radical Case (1980) fits your description well. It’s well evidenced, well argued, and tackles pedophilia proper rather than ephebophilia. It is essential reading unlike anything else you’ll find… I would also recommend historian Nicholas Basannavar’s 2019 PhD thesis introduction – it’s quite reasonable, very informative, and broadly accurate. I only recommend the intro, though. The rest isn’t necessary or particularly good/relevant, and O’Carroll has critiqued Nick’s comments on himself and PIE in scholarship (2023).
You might also be interested in Frits Bernard’s “Pedophilia: A Factual Report” (1985), or Michael Seto’s “Pedophilia and Sexual Offending Against Children: Theory, Assessment, and Intervention” (2nd edn., 2018), the latter of which I’ve not read but is probably quite reasonable for a modern mainstream work.
Hopefully you’ll find something of interest there! :p
Good work in a short time, Prue! You have made some excellent suggestions, although my reason for saying so may not be entirely objective! 🙂
Clarification: I meant Chapter One of Basannavar, not the introduction. (Though the introduction isn’t awful, just not as pointed / useful as a historically informed scholar answering questions like “What is a child?” and “What is a paedophile?” in succession).
Otherwise, yes “Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions” is a great suggestion given by Sugarboy. The book offers many non-stigmatizing evolutionary approaches to pedophilia.
There’s also a brilliant chapter by historian Vern Bullough, and a must read chapter by psychologist Paul Okami, examining the bias baked into much CSA literature.
You can find this book, as with many others, on Anna’s Archive or Library Genesis. For some scholarly papers (e.g. Killias, 2000) you’ll have to bring up Sci-hub and paste the link there, to gain access to the paper.
Thank you, Prue. In terms of literature, I would recommend John Henry Mackay’s excellent novel The Hustler. It’s about a young man falling in love with a 14-year-old hustler in 1920s Berlin. I don’t want to spoiler, but it ends in tragedy. I read the book a few years ago and was deeply impressed by its high quality and how well it describes the main character’s feelings, using many climactic metaphors. It is one of the best novels I have ever read.
As for the last topic, I highly recommend this book:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pedophilia-Biosocial-Dimensions-Jay-Feierman/dp/0387972439
I agree. Although this book has been around for a long time it rests on a strong theoretical foundation.
An historical view of the Anglo fake media (not books barely read by the masses) populist panic for ratings and profit, that forced feeble Parliament to raise the UK hetero AOC from a rational 12 in 1875 to an unnatural 16 in 1885. As always quote Anglo-Irish visionary gay victim MAP Wilde, 1891, “We are dominated by journalism.”
The age of consent in the UK evolved from 12 in the pre-printing press 13th century to The Offences Against the Person Act 1875 raised it to 13 in Great Britain and Ireland, and then to 16 in mass newsprint 1885 following a fake media panic by trash tabloid pioneer William Stead. The Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885 established the age of 16. This act also introduced a higher penalty for offences against girls under 13. William Thomas Stead (5 July 1849 – 15 April 1912) was an English newspaper editor who, as a pioneer of investigative journalism, became a controversial figure of the Victorian era.[1] Stead published a series of hugely influential campaigns whilst editor of The Pall Mall Gazette (became the muddle-class Daily Mail), including his 1885 series of articles, The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon. These were written in support of a bill, later dubbed the “Stead Act”, that raised the age of consent from 13 to 16.[2] Stead’s “new journalism” paved the way for the modern tabloid in Great Britain.[2] He has been described as “the most famous journalist in the British Empire”.[3] He is considered to have influenced how the press could be used to influence public opinion and government policy, and advocated “GOVERNMENT BY JOURNALISM”.[4] He was known for his reportage on child welfare, social legislation and reformation of England’s criminal codes. Stead died in the sinking of the RMS Titanic. (Non sex ‘went down’ on the Titanic).
The 20th Century high point for low/no AOC was the SeXy ’70s. In March 1976, the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), called for an equal age of consent of 14, or 10, in Britain.[22] The submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee generated extensive newspaper coverage. While the report recognised the merits of abolishing the age of consent, it proposed retaining a prohibition on sex under the age of 14 “as a compromise with public attitudes”,[23] stating that “although it is both logical and consistent with modern knowledge about child development, to suggest that the age of consent should be abolished, we fear that, given the present state of public attitudes on this topic, it will not be politically possible to abolish the age of consent”.[24]
They also argued that “childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage” and suggested that more harm was caused when the children retold their experiences in court or to the press. The submission was signed by Harriet Harman, who was a legal officer for the NCCL at the time before becoming an MP in 1982.[25] Harman denies ever supporting the age of consent being lowered to 10, and claimed that right-wing newspapers the Daily Mail and The Telegraph had tried to make her “guilty by association” with fringe groups that had previously been connected to the NCCL.[22].
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age-of-consent_reform_in_the_United_Kingdom#/
Prostasia has hit the buffers after its audacious attempts at alliance-building failed. Harm-reduction approach also faced headwinds with Trump 2.0 and misinformation was still circulating that hampered its efforts.
Initiatives live on under alternative banners.
Craziness, but understandable. Kinda sad cuz although they were cringe they’ve been doing good and serious work. Pushing back on the drive to criminalize art / cartoons, was a very welcome move imo.
The 1+ million strong hate train coming from anti-MAP conspiracy fearmonger Shoeonhead, marginalized them and drove their supporters into silence. For a tiny, public organization, there’s no way they’d emerge from that level of scrutiny unscathed.
Apparently, Jeremy Malcolm got doxxed, and one former member of the team changed their name to escape harassment. They are an exceptional and unusual case, but the mix of overt “sex positivity,” “pro kink” and “sex work” whilst also using the term “MAP” and calling yourself a “child protection organization,” was liable to freak some people out if they connect all these things together. (“They’re teaching the kids about kink REEEEE” *pepe screech intensifies*)…
Good luck to their rebrand and future endeavors. Prevention approaches combined with humanizing scholarship and a defence of cartoon porn and sex dolls, is much better than nothing. Good for them and thank you, Prostasia, for trying to make the world a better place…
Shall we be honest about the reason there’s no major backlash against Stephen Ireland’s arrest and extreme sentencing?
It’s not just the fact that many people want to avoid poking the hornet’s nest, drawing the paranoid, schizo wrath of the Anti brigade so systemically enfranchised on Twitter. It’s also that Stephen Ireland, for all the good he’s done and kindness he’s surely spread in his life, isn’t *that* conventionally attractive, and isn’t rich/attached to the rich.
He’s no Oscar Wilde, basically. For starters, Ireland lives in a time when “popularity” and “fame” are fare more diffuse and spread out: we have tons of celebrity to go around, from traditional media to online e-celebs. The focus on any one person now tends to be shorter in time and ascribed less social/symbolic significance, since there the amount of ‘controversial’ figures have boomed.
Sex scandals have huge salience, but their presence in media is more fleeting unless you are the elite of the elite, which Stephen Ireland is not. Fame is no longer just about writing books and being reported in the newspapers…
Oscar Wilde was not only *much more* famous in his own time, but he was also similarly despised and subject to immense legal and social stigma due to his gross indecency trial. He lost friends and, whilst we now look back and see him as an icon, martyr, or hero, Wilde was alienated and despised after this point.
It likely is a grave injustice that’s been exacted on Mr. Ireland, as was exacted on Mr. Wilde, but we’ve had nyon 100 years or more to revise our collective view of Wilde and “homosexuality.” In comparable historical terms, the battle of “pedosexuality,” as well as the wider love of youth which is more broadly shared and widespread, is much more recent.
“Pederasty” is now considered distinct from “homosexuality” in a way it never was prior. We now live in a much different world where this new, mysterious “pedophile” identity / category exists, having replaced the earlier, ambivalent figure of the “pederast.”
As is made obvious with the constant emphasis on Jeffrey Epstein and other supposed “pedophiles,” this is the no.1 stigmatized identity of our time, a different one to Oscar Wilde’s which only converges to today’s with the use of terms like “boy.” The difference, however, is the age… The age of acceptable sex has broadly gone down over time, and people are much more tolerant of same sex relations, pre marital sex, non reproductive sex, and contraception.
I think 21 would’ve been the common “legal age” for males in Wilde’s time, though gay sex was totally beyond the pale and highly illegal, carrying with it the potential punishment of many years of prison or hard labor. What we are witnessing today, is a backlash to the liberal reforms of the past, with many people now performatively advocating for the “legal” age to go back up to where it was in Victorian times!)
In addition to his comparable obscurity to Wilde, one of the issues you’ll have making a marty out of Stephen Ireland, is that he’s not “hot.” No shade on the man, I love his flamboyant outfits – more of that please! – but in terms of mass public appeal Mr. Ireland’s look is not gonna cut it…
More than that alone.
It’s the fact that the Surrey Pride story is so tasty a morsel for the motivated reasoning of anti-wokes and gurning radfems, that the only response society may permit is to distance both men as heinous, unforgivable monsters.
The cost of defending them, or even being seen to defend them is too high at this point.
This way, it is possible, even necessary to whitewash over, e.g. the fact that the CPS went with “conspiracy” charges against the men for engaging in erotic roleplay, and failed to secure convictions.
And how about that craven potato-pounder Graham Linehan? In that account of his arrest adventure he promptly dispatched to The Spectator? Before he’s even completed his first paragraph he’s advising his vast readership that all this went down IN A COUNTRY WHERE PÆDOPHILES ESCAPE SENTENCING!
That anyone can get away with an invocation this gratuitous is flat out incredible. But every respectable, ‘elite’ pundit on the planet now knows who this Linehan fellow is, and he could just as well have staged a coup to establish cause célèbre!
His singularly driven purpose from the moment his ink hits the page is to signal himself ABOVE THOSE PÆDOPHILES
Inrepid reporter Turp: Who, Mr Linehan, are The Pædophiles? They appear to be Everywhere and Nowhere all at the same time. Is one of them in the rOOm with us now, perhaps?
If you’re in the EU and would like to not have your messages scanned by spyware, please contact your representative and let them know.
https://www.brianribbon.com/home/chat-control-how-the-eu-will-exploit-children-for-power (written to appeal to non-MAPs)
https://fightchatcontrol.eu
im seeing some worrying trends .(wait, are there any that arent?) pubs where under 18s arent even allowed to stand at the bar. yes, stand !! shops which wont sell 12 rated videos to under 18s.. shops that wont even let teens in ! i going to have to leave a note at these places. what should i write, fascists?? and i was on a porn site and the word
drink
wasnt allowed. ER…A scheme helped prevent sex offenders committing more crimes – then it closed. Why? (BBC, Sep 3rd, 2025).
The most effective way to reduce “sex offends” is to liberate sex by encouraging a culture of sex positivity and widespread sex education. The suppression and criminalization of sex creates an atmosphere of fear in which iatrogenic and nocebo harm thrive, which leads to the emergence of many false victims.
What does nocebo mean?
(noh-SEE-boh) A harmless substance, treatment, or behaviour that may cause harmful side effects or worsening of symptoms only because the patient thinks or believes they may occur or expects them to occur. I.E. the well known fake power of populist SUGGESTION by Anglo fake media.
The better known “placebo effect” refers to the measurable improvement in a patient’s symptoms that can occur after receiving a placebo, driven by the patient’s belief in the treatment and the expectation of feeling better. Placebos are used to determine if a real treatment’s effects are greater than what can be attributed to belief alone.
The most effective way to reduce sex offences is to repeal useless sex laws, which means to repeal 95% of all the sex laws. Even better would be to repeal them all, which would lead to a 100% reduction in sex offences. In fact, no scheme has ever lead to a more drastic reduction in sex offences than the one explained above.
Have you noticed the recent trend of infantilization, espcially amongst teenagers? Legal adults saying that teenagers are “children” and reffering to them as “little boys” and “little girls” or even saying that they are prepubescent. And the teenagers arent even fighting back against the infantilization, they go along with it because it provides them an easy way out of basic human decency, accountablity, and responisbility. Just 2 or 3 decades ago teenagers were eager to assert themselves as the young adults that they are and to take on mature roles in society. Modern day teenagers just want to be coddled and babied and treated like 5 year olds as long as possible. And this isnt even a “old man thinks that kids these days have it too easy”. Im literally in my early twenties, I was a teenager 4 years ago.
The infantilization and etitlement is so bad that even young 20 year olds can see it, so we cant just blame this on a typical generational “kids have it easier than back in my day” war that happens every generation. 17 year olds are calling themselves children. People are calling 16 year olds “little girls”. I saw someone on reddit say that 15 year olds shouldnt be charged if they commit murder because they are too young to understand why murder is wrong. I kid you fucking not. No downvotes or anything. I heard someone call a 15 year old “prepubscent” recently. PRE PUBE-FUCKING-BESCENT???! At FIFTEEN?!? And no, the teenager in question was not prepubscent, in fact, it wasnt even real, it was a cartoon anime boy from attack on titan.
Pedophillia used to mean attraction to children, aka, actual physical biological children. But now the defenition of child is just anyone under the age of majority. But it doesnt end there. They consider 18-20 year olds “adult-minors” and also want them to be children. (Unless of course, the 18-20 year old dates a minor a year or two younger than them, then they go back to being grown ass adults instead of children). You thought that was it? Nope! They are pushing the ridiculous MYTH that anyone under 25 is “mentally/neurologically” “undeveloped” and also a child as well. Not only has this myth been proven false, but it doesnt even make sense in the first place, why would your most important organ that dictates how you function in life, randomly stagnate a third of the way through the average human lifespan and be incapable of any future growth or maturation? So is a 50 or 60 year old mentally in their mid twenties because thats the age when their brain stagnated? Like this logic makes no sense, every other organ in your body continues to grow and change and mature throughout your entire life, but your MOST IMPORTANT ORGAN completely stagnates in your mid twenties? What? They are also trying to reclassify young adulthood as a stage of adolescenes.
They call it “late adolecence”. Children, as in, actual prepubescent human beings, are now called babies. I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt and believe that it is a pet name, but I would t be suprised if they actually see elementary schoolers as infants. People are refusing to potty train their toddlers and 5 year olds are showing up to kindergarten in diapers because they “arent ready”. And potty training “too early” will “hurt them”, and “strip them of their bodily autonomy”. So let me get this straight, teaching a child a basic life skill that gives the independence and autonomy over their bowels and bladder and gives them more privacy in their day to day life is child abuse, but letting children piss and defecate themselves when they are fully capable of getting up and walking to the potty is healthy? Wtf?? “Oh they arent ready”. And yet suprisingly, every other country in the world besides america is able to potty train their kid by two. So it seems that it is just an american phenonom where kids arent “ready”. And the kids will literally be ripping of their diapers and fighting diaper changes. If thats not a sign that they hate diapers and want to move on then I dont know what is. And how and why would teaching a kid how to not shit and piss themselves “hurt” them?? that makes zero sense. And now we have 5 year olds showing up to kindergarten still in pampers because mommy and daddy want to neglect teaching them a basic life skill.
so now adays, children are babies. Teenagers are children. Adults in their 20s are adolecents. Ig this means 30 to 50 year olds are young adults. 60-80 year olds are middle aged. And only people in their 90s are elderly. This is fucking bullshit. Teenagers used to be young adults, starting families, going to war, running business, participating in politics. Then they became “adolescents”(a made up stage of development that has only existed since the 1800s btw). And now they are “children”. One of the founding fathers of America was a teenager. So teenagers have gone from being capable to found literal countries to being “children” who dont even understand that murder is wrong… It used to be child-adolecent-adult. But now it is child-child-adult who is occasionally treated like an adolescent when it is convenient-adult. I wouldnt have a big of a problem if child was used as a synonym for legal minor, but its clear that antis are weaponizing the conotation of the word child with actual prepubscent, elementary and day care aged children to make teenagers seem younger and more infantile than they really are. They want to brainwash the world into thinking that a 17 year old is in the same developmental age group as a 7 year old. That a 16 year old has more in common with a 6 year old than a 20 year old. That 18 is a biologically significant age that fundamentally changes you as a person, and that everyone under is a stupid little baby that needs mommies titty milk, even if they are only a day away from turning this magical special number. That a 20 year old is a grown as man compared to an innocent little 17 year old child. Despite the fact that it is literally a two and a half year difference. Maybe 3 years at most.
im seeing 19 year olds say that they view 15 and 16 year olds as their children, not as their younger siblings or peers, but as their CHILDREN. 20 year olds say that they would rather die then date a 17 year old(but if a day later they turned 21 and the 17 year old turned 18 it would magically be perfectly ok?) 22 year olds say they could never even look at someone under 21 romantically, even if they are 20. 26 year olds saying that everyone under 25 is a child, including 24 year olds. Its fucking bullshit all the way down
>so now adays, children are babies. Teenagers are children. Adults in their 20s are adolecents.
Nicely observed, Koko! 🙂
>One of the founding fathers of America was a teenager.
Guess you mean Alexander Hamilton, who was certainly a political writer in his teens and as a young volunteer soldier in the revolutionary war may even have reached the rank of captain (his date of birth is uncertain) before the age of 20.
If i had my way these people would be put in a straight jacket….
“SHOW ME! A Picture Book of Sex for Children and Parents”.
SeXy ’70s non-Anglo expressed – Anglo repressed….so, no (loose) change there.
Author Helga Fleischhauer-Hardt. English translator Hilary Davies Illustrator Will McBride Cover artist Will McBride. Subject Sex education Photo-book Publisher Jugend dienst, 1974. Published in English by St Martins Press, 1975.
Show Me! appeared in 1974 in German under the title “Zeig Mal! Ein Bilderbuch für Kinder und Eltern” written by psychiatrist Helga Fleischhauer-Hardt for children and their parents. It was translated into English a year later and was widely available in bookstores on both sides of the Atlantic for many years, but later became subject to expanded child pornography laws in jurisdictions including the United States.
While many parents appreciated Show Me! for its frank depiction of pre-adolescents discovering and exploring their sexuality, others called it child pornography. In 1975 and 1976, obscenity charges were brought against the publisher or booksellers by prosecutors in Massachusetts,[1] New Hampshire,[2] Oklahoma, and Toronto, Ontario, Canada.[3] In all four cases, the judges ruled as a matter of law that the title was not obscene.[4][5][6] However, starting in 1977, some states began to criminalize the distribution of even non-obscene so-called “child pornography,” or “images of abuse,” which arguably is not protected by the First Amendment. (New York State, home of the publisher, St. Martin’s Press), criminalized the distribution of non-obscene “child pornography” in 1977, but the publisher promptly went to court and obtained an injunction against the State. The court granted the injunction because the First Amendment was interpreted to permit the banning of only obscene material.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show_Me!
Femmes’ Mag ‘Cosmo’ on BONNIE BLUE.
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/sex/a64588416/bonnie-blue-lily-phillips-interview/
Quote, Anglo Swingin’ 60s bard BIG Bob, “Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command – the times they are a-changin’.” Check, Anglo SeXy ’70s, irreverent OZ magazine founder Richard Neville, on 14 July 1975 he hosted an episode of the Australian ABC Radio series Lateline entitled “Pederasty” in which “three men in their thirties who admitted sex relations with boys, and a teenage boy who said he had been involved in such relationships since he was 12, discussed their experiences frankly with (Neville)”.[16][17]
One letter to the editor published in The Sydney Morning Herald described the adult men interviewed as “chuckling” as they described “waiting outside playgrounds to seduce young boys”.[18] A tape of the episode was turned over to police by Fred Nile[17] and Peter Nixon of the then-National Country Party called for a public inquiry into the ABC.[19] Asked about the program, ABC chairman Richard Downing initially commented that he had not heard it himself but that the ABC’s general intention is to “try to inform people about what (is) happening so that they might be forewarned and forearmed”.[17] Later, he added: “In general, men will sleep with young boys and that’s the sort of thing the community ought to know about”.[20] The ABC’s response was only to introduce guidelines around the use of “four-letter words” and “crude expressions” but they rejected introducing further guidelines on program content, with Downing commenting that he wanted ABC staff to be “adventurous and imaginative (but not) titillating”.[21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Neville_(writer)
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=lateline+richard+neville
Trouble over at the Virtuous Pedophiles (Vir-Ped) community. Brian has the story, and the only thing I’d quibble about his otherwise erudite and supremely helpful analysis, is similar to a BoyChat poster – the framing of “Sammy” at B4U-ACT’s event as acting “aggressively.”
This refers to the first story, of “Sammy,” then a co-director of VirPed. Sammy attended B4U-ACT’s most recent in-person conference and claimed, after the event, to have “violated physical and personal boundaries,” and “ignored [the] consent” of young adult at the event (probably a woman, though the gender neutral “person” is used a lot).
Sammy’s full write-up is available via Twitter, and my thoughts at the time, noting that Sammy mentions being in therapy multiple times, was that he was being oversensitive / dramatic. As I put it in private correspondence:
Considering we get no specifics and we are not told how the young adult in question felt, and that this activity didn’t rise to the level of criminality or provoke a public response from B4U-ACT, I suspect the event is a nothing-burger: an overreaction from a hyper-sensitive Vir-Pedder bedeviled by therapy-speak.
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What is a bigger deal, however, is Sammy’s replacement, who went by “Charlie.” Charlie, as Brian’s piece explains, was a VirPed director who has recently been “arrested for alleged ‘rape’ of a child under 14 and possession of child pornography.”
This is bad enough optics and concrete enough a scandal, that Reduxx chose to write about it: https://reduxx.info/exclusive-director-of-prominent-non-offending-pedophile-group-arrested-charged-with-raping-children/
Despite having much support in the scholarly world, and undoubtedly a noble goal of helping other MAPs to live law abiding lives, this is pretty unfortunate, bad optics, and probably merits some discussion. With that, perhaps I’ll comment more later, but for now invite others to give their thoughts…
Yes, I am not anti contact nor do I support the anti contact stance, but this is a big let down for I group. I think the aoc laws are bs and should be abolished, but I am disapointed that this man didnt stay strong on his so called “morals”. He preaches and acts holier than tho but in secret fucks minors . The only positive I see from this is young pedos getting disillisioned with the anti contact ideals and seeing how performative it is and joining the pro contact side
This wording may create the false impression that there was coercion to penetrative sex. As is usually the case, all that could have happened there was harmless masturbation and sucking a minor’s penis.
WAY more Anglo fake angst masturdebate. Multi-millionaire BONNIE BLUE, 26, porn star at the centre of fake uproar over a UK Channel 4 documentary – speaks to BLOATED narrow-caster Nolan.
WARNING this shallow interview will have backward Victorian themes that will be most suitable for infantilised fake media morons so called ‘Adults’ MOCKED by modern Under-16s.
08 August 2025. 6 days left to listen. 1 hour, 18 minutes
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0lvw73c
WAY more Anglo fake angst masturdebate. The decision of OnlyFans and Instagram to ban the porn star BONNIE BLUE, who engaged in sequential sex with more than a thousand men in 12 hours, indicates the strength of the backlash of disapproval to the stunt. The reaction of many people has been what the psychologist Jonathan Haidt calls ‘moral bafflement’, the idea that most of us instinctively condemn some behaviours without being able to say why they are wrong.
https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/m002hktk
Even though it’s seemingly impossible in today’s society, little girls (and I have nothing in principle against little boys) form a massive part of my psyche and creative imagination. I engage in regular fantasy regarding them, whether innocent fantasy (going to a restaurant with a little girl) or sexual fantasy.
I wrote about little girls starting almost fifteen years ago and have completed 200,000 words on the topic, entitled ‘The Living Waters’ after a poem by Thomas Traherne, a spiritual poet who idealised childhood.
Even if the joy, happiness and pleasure I get from little girls cannot be realised in a concrete way in the real world, we have the power of our minds to reflect upon, and to engage in fantasy: to create whatever scenario we like in our private moments; and this it seems is far preferable to nothing.
Tyson furys daughter is 15. Prob to old for you. Or is she! Was reading comments on daily mail site. People saying she looked 40. But! People also calling her ‘child’ and ‘baby’ even ! Bunch of crack smokers…..
sexual fantasy IS innocent. Fantasy is not automatically more “pure” just because it is non sexual. Fantasy is not automcatically more “degenerate” just because it is sexual. Conflating asexuality with innocence is how we got in this mess in the first place. Now “inncoecent” 17 year old “children” are demonized for displaying any forms of sexuality because antis believe that innocnce and sexuality cannot exist. But fetuses masturbate to completion in the womb, and they are the most “innocent” form of human I know
1981 Anglo MAP-AAM movie, “Private Lessons” now non-PC – even the poster maybe Anglo BANNED CSA?
No doubt sparked 1990 French MAP Brigitte, 39, to fancy French AAM Emmanuel, 14, and autre HOT AAM Lads?
CAUTION: Anglo retarded, er, restricted audiences only!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082948/?ref_=nm_knf_i_2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYS2zn2OyZ4
Map films? Well i have pretty baby. But im such a map i havent even watched it. Its for novelty value really. I do h ave american beauty. Il have to get the blue lagoon films,liqorice pizza. Millers girl is not map film but a big age gap film. Ah yes and the 1968 romeo and juliet. My father the hero .. any more ideas?
Hello everyone I know I haven’t been on here for a while but I have been thinking about equality re orientation and as we are aware the homosexual community for years have complained about being seen as second class citizens due to their sexual preferences, trans people are now complaining about their preferences being stigmatized because they are no longer allowed to use the same changing rooms with the genders that they identify as but what about the heterosexual convicts in this country at least that have never been allowed to engage with the opposite sex whilst they are in prison yet the prison system has no objection to homosexual prisoners engaging with each other whist they are in jail together, is that a sort of two tier system that oppresses heterosexuals or should the heterosexual prisoners just grin and bear it in the same way as maps have to grin and bear it?
Sadly the gays have become the bigots that they hate. Not all of them but most. And im demonised for finding females attractive who have boobs pubes reproductive systems and are charged for crimes…. Trans well a lot if them bigots too . Look at blair white
Blaire White is a massive grifter and POS tbf… Utter cringe.
I was going to rant about grooming gang discourse and the Epping hotel protests, but my comment below is long enough… Suffice it to say, that this short clip of what is apparently a 14-year-old Scottish girl brandishing an axe and a (huge) knife, whilst they screech at a male asylum seeker to “get the fuck away” from them, has gone viral with over 40 MILLION views.
Personally, I think their arrest was justified and understandable. Many young people do commit heinous acts of violence, and these highly emotional young people certainly could have done so… There is no evidence from this clip, that this man posed any threat to them in any way, only speculation. Certainly, he is not the one raising his voice, brandishing weapons, and also seems to be on his own, making him more vulnerable to being attacked. No civilized, safe society should tolerate threatening people with knives or axes in public, and key questions such as how and why such a young girl had left her home in possession of such weapons have yet to be answered. By contrast, to me at least, this young lady appears as unhinged and dangerous. We don’t want more deeply mentally ill people like Axel Rudakubana, stabbing people in public, so an investigation and mental health check is in order.
A less biased towards the “migrants = rapist / dangerous terrorists” person, would notice how extremely unusual this situation is, with the young lady seeming to have weapons hidden behind her back rather bringing them out from a bag or elsewhere. Did she leave her house with intent to use those weapons (i.e. commit an attack)? What happened prior to this clip? Without fuller context of these people’s lives and choices leading up to this moment, it’s hard to determine the “truth” of what’s going on. We don’t even know what the man is saying in this short clip, since no popular commentator to my knowledge has bothered to translate it…
Anyway, the takeaway is that fear of MAPs, or more broadly sexual attraction and sexual attention directed towards the young, is being used to bolster anti-immigrant and anti-MAP sentiment. You can see this in recent anti-immigrant protest footage, where people chant “pedos” and “nonce” whilst holding “protect our kids” signs… Unfortunately, with a bit of digging, it’s clear that single cases of what usually amounts to not a lot – but get described in lurid and emotive terms like “sexual assault” or “sexual attack” – are being used to paint an image of non-white men as sexually rapacious, backwards savages, out to get “our (implicitly white) women and girls.”
To me, it’s fucked up that so many people are being stereotyped and stigmatized based on the actions of a tiny number of alleged criminal cases. In the Epping case, which provided and excuse / spark for riots and protest, a male asylum seeker reportedly chatted to some teenage girls’ sat outside eating pizza, and after some discussion attempted to kiss one of them. He was rebuffed, rejected, and at some point the police were called. The man, now in court, denies this allegation. He is, I remind everyone, “Innocent until proven guilty.” But what has horrified me is the description of an alleged attempt at a kiss as “sexual assault” and a “sexual attack.” I mean, come on people. This is hardly the end of the world, nor a reason to decry whole buildings of people as “pedos” and threats to children…
Turns out I was right to be skeptical. As usual, most people aren’t overt public stalkers, rapists, etc., despite what the media and far-right fear peddlers want you to think.
Police have now confirmed that in reality, contrary to false and (imo racist) assumptions, it was the girl with the knife who accosted what was in fact a Bulgarian (brown) man and his wife. Both are legal residents of the UK legal, not asylum seekers. The 21YO man, Fatos Ali Dumana, sates that he was simply walking to the local shops…
‘Migrant’ confronted by schoolgirl, 12, wielding axe in Dundee says he came to UK legally and did nothing wrong.
“In the video she’s saying, ‘Don’t touch my sister, she’s only 12’… I never touched her. I didn’t hit her […]
Feminists keep blabbing on about male stranger danger, the right wing feminist parents add an anti immigration element of “foreign male rape gangs”(when the girls seek out the men themselves), and people are surprised when young girls act out against men in new and interesting, mentally ill ways?
A 14 yr old brandishing an axe and knife? 14 yr olds are innocent so no need to worry ….
Yes, 14 year olds are innocent children, innocent little girls and little boys. Oh a 14 year old commited a mass shooting at his highschool and murdered several classmates, permantly disabling the few survivors? He is just an innocent little child who doesnt even know what hes doing! He probably doesnt even fully grasp the concept of death yet! Hes just a bebeh! Oh, a 14 year old raped(as in actual rape, not stuatory), his girlfriend? 14 year olds arent even capable of understanding consent, let alone understanding rape! He is just an innocent child, a little boy who doesnt know any better. It would be cruel and unusual to throw a little boy in any type of prison :(. Oh the 14 year old is phsycially assualting her classmates at school? Shes bashing their heads in walls and broke a classmates bones? She is a little girl! A mere child! She doesnt even understand right from wrong yet, and she wont until the magical special age of 18 where she will suddenly become a decent and functional human being over night in the span of mere seconds after nearly two decades of infantilization and coddling! Just give her a spanking and a time out, she will grow out of it on midnight of her 18th birthday and there will be no future problems!
I guess minors are allowed to threaten people with weapons as long as theres a “pedophile” involved. So much for getting rid of school shootings and school stabbings. As long as a 14 year old accuses a couple of16 year olds of “grooming” them they can get away with a genuine school shooting and be praised by society. (And yes, 14 and 16 is now considered “grooming” by antis, as 14 year olds are little baby children who are still in ms and 16 year olds are basically grown ass adults able to drive and do some other shit. Of course this all changes when its 14 and 12, then the 14 year old stops being an innocent child and becomes an evil predator, or 16 and 18, then the 16 year old goes from being an evil grown ass predator to an innocent baby child who cant think or do anything. Lol. Dont believe me? go on tiktok or any other place that teens hang out. You will see so many “im 14 hes 16 is this ok?” Posts and “erm…if you have to ask its bad” “think of the power dynamic” “i was groomed at 14 by a 16 yr old pred” “the 16 yr old is a future pdf” “this is super sus”.
Heres a fun fact about me, when I was 14 I had an almost 17 year old gf. We kissed and we almost “sexually abused” each other, if yknow what I mean ;). I only declined because I was feeling too depressed to get aroused. Now im thinking its a good thing I declined, because she was suggesting we “abuse” and “rape” each other in the school toliets, where we could have easily been caught by another student, or worse, a teacher, and both me and her would get thrown on the sex offender regristry for “raping” “innocent” “children”. I would be forced into the victim label by society and everyone would call our mutual and consenual relationship “grooming”. Meanwhile, the cops would label me a dangerous sexual predator for having mutually consensual sex, sorry, mutually consenual rape, with a minor two grades above me. What fucking bullshit this society is. I miss when we had real problems, like war and famine, not stupid made up problems like teens dating teens a grade or two below them
> At 16, I managed to convince someone in their early 20s to kiss me, which took some doing since they were concerned it was “problematic” (in their words). I didn’t really understand their hesitance or, if I did, I just pushed past it. (You could call it “charisma” or “rizz,” as the lingo goes). I’ve never ascribed much significance to this event, though I know I was eager and happy about it at the time. I’m still distantly friendly with this person; they’re lovely and I certainly never felt “harmed” or “traumatized” by an age-gap kiss that I wanted and initiated. The idea that this could constitute “child abuse” is utterly ridiculous.
> Well, poverty and economic inequality, austerity and high rental rates in the private rental market, are pretty big ‘real problems’. Problems that especially tend to impact the young, as the young tend to have less money by virtue of rarely starting at high pay grades or ‘senior’ positions. There are also all sorts of problems arising from age apartheid and tabooing age-gap sex, from would-be couples inhibiting themselves for fear of stigma, rejecting out-of-hand what would be perfectly suitable, wonderful sex and relationship partners, to the expansive and disproportionate criminalization and sentencing of unlawful consensual sex rendered as ‘rape’ / ‘sexual assault’.
So, there’s a lot to improve upon in this world! I hope you can find a way to play a role in making the world a better place, “Koko”!
This Portuguese YouTuber got 48 MILLION views(!!!), on a documentary-style video decrying what he calls “Adultification.” (Which you can watch with English subtitles switched on).
That is, he complains about children and young people making videos, dancing, podcasting, and trying to set up or learn about business and make money. He decries what he sees as “children acting like adults,” rather than taking the fact of said behavior as a reason to question if the “child/adult” binary he has rigidly ascribed to people of different ages, is in fact more porous, fluid, or “queer”…
I do find it both jarring, odd, and funny to see what look like very young children speaking on professional-looking podcast sets. But at the same time, I’m happy to see anyone, young or old, trying to establish a good life for themselves while pursuing their interests, hobbies, and passions. This video smacks of moral panic; the presenter literally says “What is happening to our children? Society is going to collapse.”
No bro, the economy’s fucked and floating up above it all, the kids are just forging their identities and trying to express themselves. They’re using technology which wasn’t widely available to previous generations, to attempt set themselves up for a good career at a young age. That seems a perfectly sensible, reasonable thing for an ambitious young person to do, and something I bet many older people wished they’d have done in their younger years… You wanting this “to stop,” smacks of you just you wanting to control the young. Trying to force young people into ways of living that fit with your desexualized, “innocent” ideal image of what a “child” and “childhood” should be. Ways of being that don’t offend your precious sensibilities, hurt your delicate feelings, and god forbid make you “uncomfortable”…
Well I’ve got news for you: humans are sensate-erotic creatures from birth ’till death. And no matter how much you screech, piss and moan, you won’t erase the human preference for neoteny, nor the fact that people under whatever arbitrary age you set “a child” at (12, 14, 16, 18), will still self-sexualize, seek sexual experience, and if nothing else have rich fantasy lives. This is reality for all human history, and your fearmongering won’t change that…
The reality is that some people under 18 express themselves sexually online, in ways they probably shouldn’t be if only for their own legal safety. Get over it. Breaking up families, sending people to prison over non-violent behavior, isn’t helping anyone. I’ve known people who, in their youth, had unlawful age-gap sex or sexual chats with adults online when they were teenagers. You know what came of these experiences? Nothing! No one was hurt or “traumatized,” they all just laughed about it and moved on with their lives. The worst thing that could’ve happened for all involved, is for people like you to come in and make a problem out of nothing. There are already “report” functions on every website for users who are unhappy w/ other users’ behavior…
It’s high time we took a sober look at the reality of who’s really harming who. Stop the panicking, the criminalizing, and the stigmatizing of fucking dance tiktoks and erotically charged selfies. Start looking at how we can maximize freedom and fun in people’s lives…
Update on the Roblox drama: Roblox has only increased in popularity / usage despite controversy. Despite, if you can believe it, videos like this one apparently featuring Chris Hansen himself, garnering over 7 million views…
I wrote a huge rant about how evil and twisted the world is becoming, but didn’t post it in the end. For what set that off, see the news story that’s gone semi-viral online. Screenshots of news media here, or as media itself put it:
He is described as a man “with limited means,” i.e. poor, only having his mother to depend on, and had no prior criminal convictions. He is now being “charged with two offences under section 6.1 of the Child Trafficking and Pornography Act”…
This media use of the phrase “anime,” next to “CSA images,” sent the internet into a frenzy of incredulous terror. The ruling class really are ‘coming for your cartoons’, overtly policing the kind of body types, behaviors and dispositions which can be legally represented in a drawing or animation (i.e. big boobs, butts, penises and ‘mature’ dispositions only). As the based and free-speech-pilled manga/anime commentator Chibi Reviews put it: “You Can Be Arrested for “Anime Images” Now.. I’m not joking.”
I’m sure I echo the sentiment of many when I say, this world has lost the plot…
The “ruling class” is simply unimpeded sex-negative feminists.
Anime “child sex abuse”?? What next, arresting people for anime “snuff films”?? Oh yeah, I forgot, it is only bad if it includes “minors” and sex. Everything else is a ok, even brutal gorey violence that is far more graphic in nature than a teenager getting a blowjob
> Apparently so, Koko, apparently so… Because these things get rendered as “child abuse,” rather than “teen sex” or just “Keiko and her older boyfriend Takashi had the sexy time” [using Japanese names], or “Keiko had fun and made tons of money from compensated dating” [highschool students’ who sell sex in Japan], we get a distorted impression.
Because many representations of love and sex during youth are far more honest, realistic, and positive in anime, policing and stigmatizing such potentially subversive “wrongthink” media will become an increasing target of the moral panic and CSA industry.
There’s a culture war going on, and it’s not a fair fight but at least we’re trying. The best thing to do is get yourself comfortable and safe financially, and get involved in some way. Whether that be starting a media production company and funding the production of subversive media, or going into politics, law, policy making, prison services or academia, you can find a way to push the envelope and build towards critical mass.
If all else fails and you work as Barista, at least you can comment, make / share memes, and uplift other people. :p
Michael Scheeringa, MD, The Trouble with Trauma (March 1, 2022).
Potential book of interest.
Yes, there was a favourable review in The Times. The author is an Orwell Prize winner, which is a good sign. He has immense clinical experience in the field, including with children and adolescents. Unlike many clinicians, though, who tend to be overinfluenced by non-representative case studies, Scheeringa clearly understands the importance of scientific method when it comes to drawing general conclusions. He does not fall into what is known in the trade as “the clinician’s fallacy”. Indeed, it looks as though his whole book may be a critique of that fallacy as applied to trauma.
I Reported Destiny to the Police – WallyMacShow (Aug 22, 2025)
A few times now, I’ve mentioned the famous liberal/left-wing YouTube streamer and politics debater “Destiny.” He’s been critical of QAnon, the moral panic over Epstein, and the framing of 17-year-olds as asexual, innocent “children.” I think he’s one of the most reasonable figures in online politics, and probably one of the greatest threats / opposition forces to the online political Right, since he is willing to do real life events and live debates such as his recent “Unfuck America Tour.”
It’s no surprise then, that he has a lot of haters in addition to supporters. Many people have a vested political interest in shutting him up, or just starting drama and using his name for clout.
I’ve posted about the current real-life lawsuit he’s in, over an adult-adult, consensual sexting scandal. But now, Destiny’s troubles may be getting worse, as he is now accused of “possessing child porn”! What do the growing number of online commentators mean by “CP”? You guessed it, a 17-year-old!! Not even a 7-year-old or a “child” in any meaningful sense of the term, but a young lady who allegedly shared porn of herself and her boyfriend!
It’s crazy, and likely overblown nonsense. For his part Destiny has posted to Twitter stating that he has “no CSAM” on his computer (see Tweet at 5 mins here). I hope it’ll all blow over, but the saga seems another indication of how wildly hyper-sensitive the online world is becoming around questions of age and sex…
This is a country that charges 12 year olds as adults ,17; yr olds as children,and wont let 20 yr olds drink. Boycott american profucts when you can.
>wont let 20 yr olds drink
News to me, Matt. What do you mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age_in_the_United_States
In the USA, 21 is the minimum age for drinking alcohol.
Oh, right, thanks! It’s 18 here in the UK. I should have guessed. The “land of the free” tried to be free (on a compulsory basis) from booze at any age in the “prohibition” era.
Sorry should be clearer. Actually the legal drinking age in the uk is 5. So the 17 yr olds have to drink with the 5 yr olds. At home. It truly is the twilight zone.
>Actually the legal drinking age in the uk is 5.
Is it? Well, you’re educating me again, Matt! 🙂
You are pretty well educated tom. But theres always something. Also 17 yr olds can be fined £1000 for attempting to buy alcohol. Great protection,huh? Scum ..
In case of doubt regarding the UK, Google AI Overview clarifies thus:
In the UK, it is illegal to give alcohol to children under the age of 5. However, it is not illegal for children aged 5-16 to consume alcohol at home or on other private premises. For those aged 16-17, they can also legally consume beer, wine, or cider with a meal in licensed premises.
A five-year-old in the UK could not, of course, legally purchase alcoholic drinks in licensed premises. You’d need to be 18 for that.
Well i think its ridiculous that you can drink at 5 but have to wait till 18 to in the pub ( of course in my heyday many thousands did until the goverment clamped down massively). Happy to take taxes off them though ??
A small clarification. The online world was beginning to become hyper-sensitive in the early 2010s. The emergence of phenomena such as “cancel culture” and “MeToo” marked the end of its formation. It is now a self-sustaining process that leads to the expansion of restrictions and censorship. It is not surprising that the UK once again became the first to introduce these restrictions in a recent scandalous bill.
Correct. #Metoo marked the true weaponization of sex negative feminism that continues to this day with the help of feminist institutions and NGO’s.